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I’m with you on that one smvoice. I have challenged others with those same challenges and not once have I been taken up on any of them. It seems most who vehemently support the “healing ministry” have a lack of faith when challenged to produce.

It's one thing to shout from the mountain tops the "healing of those with enough faith." It's quite another to go onto a thread and face those left behind with shouts of "this person obviously did not have enough faith."

And it's quite another to understand God's Word, God's will, and God's plan. The truth stands or falls on comparing Scripture with Scripture and dispensations with dispensations.

I agree with you both, as well. Here we have a few people on this thread who have come out and basically called everyone who disagreed with their views "blasphemers of the Holy Spirit in danger of hell"; "immature Christians"; "lacking in Biblical faith"; "lacking in anointing"; lacking in the ability to teach or train them in anything; "babblers"; having "no understanding"; putting the Holy Spirit in "ancient, fossil encrusted boxes"; "clueless"; never getting the "light"; lacking in "reading comprehension"; "Surface readers with no meditation"; "TOTALLY clueless on the Power of The Word"; yada, yada, yada. Though rarely have those terms been turned back on them and most here have not questioned their spiritual attributes. Genuine expressions of Christian love have been rejected with additional invective heaped back on the poster for good measure.

Of course, I could go on but what it boils down to REALLY is they just can't tolerate it when someone doesn't see things the same way as they do. ESPECIALLY when it is something they insist they have experienced. Somehow, experience trumps God's word. It "must" be from God, because "I experienced it and how could I experience something if God's hand wasn't in it?!" This thread is going on almost 1000 posts and it has not progressed or advanced from how it first was challenged BY THE SAME PEOPLE!

The problem is NOT that nobody is being heard, the problem is those who are convinced by their experiences refuse to allow others to hold to beliefs ABOUT those experiences that differ from their own. It really is as simple as that! It started out being about the "sign gifts" and their purpose and whether or not the purpose for those gifts has passed, that they have ceased and been removed by God and, if they were stopped, what is going on today with those who demand that they were NOT EVER stopped - though they must admit they are not the same. Perhaps we may not know the ultimate answer until we meet the Lord face to face. I have an idea, though, that that will be the farthest thing from our minds and we will finally put aside our differences and rejoice in the presence of Jesus forever.