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I trust folks mean caring when they say caring.

Certainly lots of RC’s did/do not perceive my caring toward them in lots of my posts.

Nevertheless, some of the posts on this thread hide the caring very well. LOL.

I certainly am consistent enough with my own values and style to be glad that anyone would pull out all the stops to try and rescue me from whatever spiritual ditch they saw me headed for.

HOWEVER, WHEN the motivations persistently COME ACROSS AS a decades long pique, anger, hostility, bitterness, resentment toward other religious/spiritual leaders over some chronic disappointments and exasperations—either toward God or the leaders . . . then I become more than a little concerned that the “caring” seems to be all contaminated to saturated with their own personal pique at folks and stuff quite divorced from, having little or nothing to do with me.

In terms of their purported BIBLICAL understanding. I’m shocked that such loved ones could so brazenly set aside so many plain verses and their obvious meanings. I realize that reading comprehension taught in our schools has gone to blazes in a handbasket. However, these loved ones likely learned to read before that rot set in.

It’s almost as though some horrific emotionality and deep seated angst has clouded intellectual and certainly spiritual understanding on some key points. I hate to see that in anyone—particularly loved cohorts of such long relationships. That grieves me a lot.

THANKFULLY, as you seem to well know; certainly Joya knows; Some of the men in our church know . . . THOSE OF US WITH SOLID SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCES need not be troubled by folks with mere arguments.

GOD HIMSELF HAS REPEATEDLY MADE HIMSELF; HIS PURPOSES AND EVEN HIS METHODS VERY REAL to me . . . fitting quite well within my constructions on Biblical realities in these matters. How on earth could I go back on BIBLICALLY ACCURATE truths and life experience things that GOD HIMSELF HAS PROVEN so repeatedly in my life!!?!!

Anyone expecting that is barking up the wrong tree.