Posted on 01/22/2012 2:16:36 PM PST by Gamecock
It always amazes me that the Catholic church promotes that lie and people believe it.
The OT was recognized and verified as Scripture by Jesus Himself, long before the RCC came into existence. And Paul's writings were recognized as Scripture pretty much at the time they were written.
Given the Bible Canon was complete about the end of the first century and the how the Doctrines of the Catholic Church contradict it (shall I count the ways?) it’s easy to see why credit for it’s existence would be claimed.
Ah...another “poorly catechized” ex-catholic...? It’s amazing to me the number of “poorly catechized” ex-catholics who speak of being convicted by the Holy Spirit. THAT’S why they leave the RCC. Coincidence? You decide.
So what? That is not *writing* the Bible as Catholics claim the RCC did.
They took the old testament books, edited, fact checked, and sorted the new testament books, and compiled what you now know as the bible.
EDITED????? Who the heck do they think they are to *edit* the word of God? How condescending of them to give God breathed, inspired divine revelation their stamp of approval.
Like God couldn't take care of preserving HIS Scripture Himself. What chutzpah.
The protestant movement actually removed some books from the bible which, at that time, was 1500 years old....just what the bible needed..editors!!
And yet in this very same post, you said the RCC edited Scripture. I guess then, it depends on who does the *editing* whether it's good or bad.
How hypocritical.
“The OT was recognized and verified as Scripture by Jesus Himself, long before the RCC came into existence.”
That’d be the Septuagint, given how many times the New Testament quoted from the Septuagint. And as to the latter part of your words, Jesus was the one who created the Roman Catholic Church. So if your statement were accurate (and it isn’t), it would have said The Septuagint was recognized as Scripture by Jesus Himself, before He created the Roman Catholic Church. There. Fixed it for you.
Do you have any proof of this? Of course not. So you slander a pious individual who has given his life for God for over 60 years simply because as a small kid he was conscripted to the army and deserted it on the first opportunity he got. Why not try reading the book for the theological masterpiece that it is.
“However, no student could take an ‘O’ Level in Religion as every examination board required study of the Bible, which was not permitted. Instead, we were fed a diet of Roman dogma, the sacraments, sacerdotalism, history of the Jesuits, and the Church Fathers.”
So how the heck did he get through studying the Church Fathers without comparing their writings to Scripture? Calvin himself had great respect for the Church Fathers and their comments on Scripture. It would be impossible to understand the Church Fathers without examining the Scriptures. Oh and one big reason for the study of Greek was to prepare for the reading of Scripture in that language.
“However, no student could take an ‘O’ Level in Religion as every examination board required study of the Bible, which was not permitted. Instead, we were fed a diet of Roman dogma, the sacraments, sacerdotalism, history of the Jesuits, and the Church Fathers.”
So how the heck did he get through studying the Church Fathers without comparing their writings to Scripture? Calvin himself had great respect for the Church Fathers and their comments on Scripture. It would be impossible to understand the Church Fathers without examining the Scriptures. Oh and one big reason for the study of Greek was to prepare for the reading of Scripture in that language
Because when you do, you KNOW!!!!
Exactly! It happened to me on 12/24/2010 at a Christmas eve service I was invited to by a friend. It has transformed my life in all the right ways.
The “proof” is in his own autobiography. Why don’t you read it?
But apparently Ratzinger’s own words aren’t enough “proof” for some apologists.
Absolutely right. Peter acknowledges Pauls writings as scripture in 2 Peter.
As compared to the number of poorly catechized Protestants who swim the Tiber?
Furthermore...the catholic church forbid the reading of scriptures..and brought on the Dark ages for such a ban. Additionally bringing into the church heathen practices in order to maintain the power they coveted once Rome fell. And were quick to put the people under bondage and further inflicted all types of atrocities toward it's members if they failed to comply.
Pagan rituals and practices continue to this very day within it's doors and an outright refusal to abide by the absolute clarity of God's Holy word these are not to be done....by their practices and their beliefs they have nullified the very salvation Christ's death, burial and resurrection affords to men. Therefore they keep the souls of men from the very assurance of salvation Christ gives...further adding insult to injury Catholicism teaches it is sinful to “know” ones security rests in Christ.
Catholicism is not even remotely close to the early church they so often claim as their beginning,.....they left and forfeited that years ago and to this day continue to deceive and mis-lead it's members.
No, as opposed to the number of lost souls who have ignored the convicting of the Holy Spirit in favor of works and wafers for salvation.
This from the JewsishVirtualLibrary.org: Nothing about shooting at allied aircraft. You need to call of the slander.
Pope Benedict XVI, officially in Latin Benedictus PP. XVI, born Joseph Alois Ratzinger (Latin: Iosephus Ratzinger) on April 16, 1927, was elected Pope of the Roman Catholic Church on April 19, 2005. As such, he is Bishop of Rome, rules Vatican City and leads the Roman Catholic Church including the Eastern Rite Churches in communion with the Holy See. He will be formally installed as pontiff during the Mass of Papal Installation on April 24.
Early Life
Joseph Ratzinger was born in Marktl am Inn, in Bavaria, Germany, the son of a police officer who was anti-Nazi. In 1937, Ratzinger’s father retired and setled in the town of Traunstein. When Ratzinger turned 14 in 1941, as required by law he joined the Hitler Youth. According to his biographer John Allen he was not an enthusiastic member. He requested to be taken off the rolls and reportedly refused to attend a single meeting.
In 1943, at the age of 16, Ratzinger was, along with the rest of his class, drafted into the Flak or anti-aircraft corps, responsible for the guarding of a BMW plant outside Munich. He was then sent for basic infantry training and was posted to Hungary, where he worked setting up anti-tank defences until deserting in April 1944.
In 1945, Ratzinger was briefly held in an Allied POW camp, where he attended de-Nazification classes. By June, he was released, and he and his brother (Georg) entered a Catholic seminary. On June 29, 1951, they were ordained by Cardinal Faulhaber of Munich. Ratzinger’s dissertation (1953) was on Saint Augustine, his Habilitationsschrift (second dissertation) on Saint Bonaventure. Ratzinger’s supporters say his experiences under the Nazi regime convinced him that the Church had to stand up for truth and freedom.
Ratzinger was a professor at the University of Bonn from 1959 until 1963, when he moved to the University of Münster. In 1966, he took a chair in dogmatic theology at the University of Tübingen, where he was a colleague of Hans Küng but was confirmed in his traditionalist views by the liberal atmosphere of Tübingen and the Marxist leanings of the student movement of the 1960s. In 1969, he returned to Bavaria, to the University of Regensburg, eventually rising to become its dean and vice-president.
At the Second Vatican Council (1962–1965), Ratzinger served as a peritus or chief theological expert alongside Justinae Janisch, to Josef Cardinal Frings of Cologne, Germany.
Kevin McGrane needs to be told he is still a Catholic. Just not an active one.
And to you, Mercat, welcome home!
Or “Rome Sweet Home” by Scott and Kimberly Hahn who left the Presbyterian Church for the Catholic Church.
BTW, pray for Scotr Hahn’s health right now.
88Roman dogma, the sacraments, sacerdotalism, history of the Jesuits, and the Church Fathers. Catechisms instructed that doctrine was not always to be sought in the Bible but in the infallible teaching of the Church. We learned much about Christological heresies,**
**EDITED????? Who the heck do they think they are to *edit* the word of God? **
LOL! Who edited the Word of God? Luther, of course,
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