Mary: Mother of God?

What Does the Bible say? ^ | 01/11/2012 | Bro. Lev Humphries,

[RnMomof7]

Mary: Mother of God?

This article is prompted by an ad in the Parade Magazine titled: "Mary Mother of God: What All Mankind Should Know." The offer was made for a free pamphlet entitled "Mary Mother of Jesus" with this explanation: "A clear, insightful pamphlet explains the importance of Mary and her role as Mother of God."

This is quite a claim, to say the least! Nowhere in the Bible is Mary said to be the mother of God. I touched on this subject in a series on "Mary Co-Redeemer with Christ" printed recently.

Question: If Mary is the Mother of God, Who, may I ask, is the Father of God? Does God have a Father, and if He does, Who is His Mother?

The phrase "Mother of God" originated in the Council of Ephesus, in the year 431 AD. It occurs in the Creed of Chalcedon, which was adopted by the council in 451 AD. This was the declaration given at that time: "Born of the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God according to the Manhood." The purpose of this statement originally was meant to emphasize the deity of Christ over against the teaching of the Nestorians whose teaching involved a dual-natured Jesus. Their teaching was that the person born of Mary was only a man who was then indwelt by God. The title "Mother of God" was used originally to counter this false doctrine. The doctrine now emphasizes the person of Mary rather than the deity of Jesus as God incarnate. Mary certainly did not give birth to God. In fact, Mary did not give birth to the divinity of Christ. Mary only gave birth to the humanity of Jesus. The only thing Jesus got from Mary was a body. Every Human Being has received a sinful nature from their parents with one exception: Jesus was not human. He was divine God in a flesh body. This is what Mary gave birth to. Read Hebrews 10:5 and Phil 2:5-11.

Please refer to Hebrews 10:5 where we see. "...Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me."

The body of Jesus was prepared by God. In Matthew 1:18, "she was found with child of the Holy Ghost."

The divine nature of Jesus existed from before eternity, and this cannot be said of Mary Jesus never called her "mother". He called her "woman".

This doctrine deifies Mary and humanizes Jesus. Mary is presented as stronger that Christ, more mature and more powerful that Christ. Listen to this statement by Rome: "He came to us through Mary, and we must go to Him through her." The Bible plainly states that God is the Creator of all things. It is a blasphemous attack on the eternity of God to ever teach that He has a mother. Mary had other children who were normal, physical, sinful human beings. In the case of Jesus Christ, "His human nature had no father and His divine nature had no mother."

It is probably no coincidence that this false doctrine surrounding Mary was born in Ephesus. Please read Acts 19:11-41 and see that Ephesus had a problem with goddess worship. Her name was Diana, Gk. Artemis. You will not have to study very deep to find the similarities between the goddess Diana and the Roman Catholic goddess, Mary. It should be noted that the Mary of the 1st century and the Mary of the 20th century are not the same. Mary of the 1st century was the virgin who gave birth to the Messiah. Mary of the 20th century is a goddess created by the Roman Catholic Church. A simple comparison of what the Bible teaches about Mary and what the Roman Catholic Church teaches about her will reveal two different Marys. Mary is not the "Mother of God." If she were she would be GOD! There is only one true, eternal God. He was not born of a woman. Any teaching on any subject should be backed up by the word of God. If it cannot be supported by Scriptures, it is false doctrine.

[narses]

“Not one of your texts shows those in heaven praying for us.”

Wrong. Again.

[CynicalBear]

>>Seems to me that most women are at the conception of their children.<<

I can attest to the fact that indeed my wife was their when our children were conceived. LOL

[metmom]

"After that, He saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own." John 19:27

Your verse proves nothing. It still isn't Jesus calling Mary *Mom*, as in HIS own mother.

In all the gospels, He never acknowledges her motherhood of Him. He always refers to her as *woman* and when someone tries to draw attention to the fact that she's His mother, He slaps them down.

[narses]

“Is the crucifix you have intended to be a likeness of God?”

It is the likeness of the Crucified Christ. Are you claiming that Catholic’s worship idols?

[metmom]

Wintertime this is a quote from one of your more ardent fans about the Catholic Church that you claim to love so much. Would you care to take a stand and set her straight?

Oh? You mean wintertime knows the author of the article? I didn't know that. How do you?

[narses]

"Your verse proves nothing. It still isn't Jesus calling Mary *Mom*, as in HIS own mother."

[CynicalBear]

>>It is the likeness of the Crucified Christ.<<

Are you now saying that is not an image of God?

>>Are you claiming that Catholic’s worship idols?<<

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

[narses]

>>Are you claiming that Catholic’s worship idols?<<
>>Are you claiming that Catholic’s worship idols?<<

{{{{CRICKETS}}}}

[D-fendr]

I believe these fit your view of "idol":

Is this an idol?

Is this an idol?

Again: Do you know what an idol is?

[metmom]

Both His divine and humans natures died on the cross.

So God died eh?

OK.....

[narses]

The first commandment forbids the making of graven images “TO ADORE THEM.” This is found in the Book of Exodus, where we read:

“Thou shalt not have strange gods before me. Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth. Thou shalt not adore them, nor serve them.”

It would seem images are forbidden when we attribute to them a power that belongs to God alone, or if we worship them as gods.

[narses]

xCredo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem;
Creatorem caeli et terrae.

Et in Jesum Christum,
Filium eius unicum, Dominum nostrum;
qui conceptus est
de Spiritu Sancto,
natus ex Maria virgine;
passus sub Pontio Pilato,
crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus;
descendit ad inferos;
tertia die resurrexit a mortuis;
ascendit ad caelos;
sedet ad dexteram Dei Patris omnipotentis;
inde venturus est
iudicare vivos et mortuos.

Credo in Spiritum Sanctum;
sanctam ecclesiam catholicam;
sanctorum communionem;
remissionem peccatorum;
carnis resurrectionem;
vitam aeternam. Amen.

In English:

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.

I believe in Jesus Christ,
his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived
by the power of the Holy Spirit,
and born of the Virgin Mary,
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
He descended into hell.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
he will come again
to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen

[gghd]

bondserv: Jesus did not walk the Holy Lands with a sack of Bibles handing them out to people saying, ‘Here read this book & argue about it.’ Jesus Christ established a Church & out of the Church >came the Bible. I recommend you look for the Church that Jesus Christ established. There is a promise that the ‘Gates of Hell’ will not prevail against the Church.

John 21: 25, ‘There are also many other thing that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written.’ We worship God & >not a Bible. However, Jesus is mysteriously present in Scripture. Still >God is more than just what is found in a Bible.

In a Catholic Church Service, a portion of the Bible is read as we ALL can, in a mysterious way, receive Jesus into our hearts by hearing Scripture. ‘Faith comes by hearing & hearing through the Word of God.’ I heard a Homily by a Priest where he spoke about ‘receiving a type of communion through the ear’> for everyone but especially those that can NOT receive the Eucharist.

In the Bible, Acts8:26-38, there is an event that demonstrates that ‘having a Bible & reading it’ does not necessarily bring about under standing of Scripture. Understanding in these passages was brought about by Philip. The Catholic Church as maintained for the last TWO Thousand years that it has Apostolic Authority to teach & explain Scripture.

To bring this comment back to the original thread: One of the titles of The Church established by Jesus Christ is: ‘Holy Mother our Church’ as the term ‘Mother’ means more than just ‘popping out babies.’ >Mother also means love & care that can only be given with a Mother’s Heart.

[CynicalBear]

>> Is this an idol?<<

Looks like the “image made like to corruptible man” to me. Is it supposed to depict God?

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

[wintertime]

Please read my post #287.

I hope this straightens out a misunderstanding.

Respectfully,

Wintertime

[D-fendr]

So, is that a yes?

These are idols according to you?

[CynicalBear]

>>One of the titles of The Church established by Jesus Christ is: ‘Holy Mother our Church’<<

Would you please post the scripture to prove that?

[metmom]

*chortle*

[smvoice]

beautiful. where is the gospel mentioned?

[CynicalBear]

You didn’t answer my question. Is it supposed to depict God?