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To: bondserv; D-fendr; RnMomof7

bondserv: Jesus did not walk the Holy Lands with a sack of Bibles handing them out to people saying, ‘Here read this book & argue about it.’ Jesus Christ established a Church & out of the Church >came the Bible. I recommend you look for the Church that Jesus Christ established. There is a promise that the ‘Gates of Hell’ will not prevail against the Church.

John 21: 25, ‘There are also many other thing that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written.’ We worship God & >not a Bible. However, Jesus is mysteriously present in Scripture. Still >God is more than just what is found in a Bible.

In a Catholic Church Service, a portion of the Bible is read as we ALL can, in a mysterious way, receive Jesus into our hearts by hearing Scripture. ‘Faith comes by hearing & hearing through the Word of God.’ I heard a Homily by a Priest where he spoke about ‘receiving a type of communion through the ear’> for everyone but especially those that can NOT receive the Eucharist.

In the Bible, Acts8:26-38, there is an event that demonstrates that ‘having a Bible & reading it’ does not necessarily bring about under standing of Scripture. Understanding in these passages was brought about by Philip. The Catholic Church as maintained for the last TWO Thousand years that it has Apostolic Authority to teach & explain Scripture.

To bring this comment back to the original thread: One of the titles of The Church established by Jesus Christ is: ‘Holy Mother our Church’ as the term ‘Mother’ means more than just ‘popping out babies.’ >Mother also means love & care that can only be given with a Mother’s Heart.


613 posted on 01/12/2012 7:23:46 PM PST by gghd
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To: gghd
>>One of the titles of The Church established by Jesus Christ is: ‘Holy Mother our Church’<<

Would you please post the scripture to prove that?

617 posted on 01/12/2012 7:28:34 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: gghd; D-fendr; RnMomof7
Mary is the only woman in all eternity to have been blessed to birth our Redeemer, Jesus Christ. For this she is the most unique woman to ever live (there is nothing new under the sun, does not apply to her). Amazing!

With this right perspective, we need to consider whether she had the attributes of God, Omniscience, Omnipresence and Omnipotence? I do not believe she did and the scriptures rightly present her as being confused almost every time she is mentioned.

I do not mean this in a negative way, rather that she is sorting out who and what Jesus is. It leaps off the pages of scriptures. Like all other believers in Christ, we lack the eternal perspective of reality and are left to respond accordingly.

She was very human, as presented in the passages that include her, and loved her son very much, doing her best to be a great mother for Him. Exemplary person, but still a sinner in need of a savior.

647 posted on 01/12/2012 8:16:51 PM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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