Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PST by RnMomof7
“Not one of your texts shows those in heaven praying for us.”
Wrong. Again.
I can attest to the fact that indeed my wife was their when our children were conceived. LOL
Your verse proves nothing. It still isn't Jesus calling Mary *Mom*, as in HIS own mother.
In all the gospels, He never acknowledges her motherhood of Him. He always refers to her as *woman* and when someone tries to draw attention to the fact that she's His mother, He slaps them down.
“Is the crucifix you have intended to be a likeness of God?”
It is the likeness of the Crucified Christ. Are you claiming that Catholic’s worship idols?
Oh? You mean wintertime knows the author of the article? I didn't know that. How do you?
Are you now saying that is not an image of God?
>>Are you claiming that Catholics worship idols?<<
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
>>Are you claiming that Catholics worship idols?<<
>>Are you claiming that Catholics worship idols?<<
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Is this an idol?
Is this an idol?
Again: Do you know what an idol is?
So God died eh?
OK.....
The first commandment forbids the making of graven images “TO ADORE THEM.” This is found in the Book of Exodus, where we read:
“Thou shalt not have strange gods before me. Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth. Thou shalt not adore them, nor serve them.”
It would seem images are forbidden when we attribute to them a power that belongs to God alone, or if we worship them as gods.
xCredo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem;
Creatorem caeli et terrae.
Et in Jesum Christum,
Filium eius unicum, Dominum nostrum;
qui conceptus est
de Spiritu Sancto,
natus ex Maria virgine;
passus sub Pontio Pilato,
crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus;
descendit ad inferos;
tertia die resurrexit a mortuis;
ascendit ad caelos;
sedet ad dexteram Dei Patris omnipotentis;
inde venturus est
iudicare vivos et mortuos.
Credo in Spiritum Sanctum;
sanctam ecclesiam catholicam;
sanctorum communionem;
remissionem peccatorum;
carnis resurrectionem;
vitam aeternam. Amen.
In English:
I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ,
his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived
by the power of the Holy Spirit,
and born of the Virgin Mary,
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
He descended into hell.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
he will come again
to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen
bondserv: Jesus did not walk the Holy Lands with a sack of Bibles handing them out to people saying, ‘Here read this book & argue about it.’ Jesus Christ established a Church & out of the Church >came the Bible. I recommend you look for the Church that Jesus Christ established. There is a promise that the ‘Gates of Hell’ will not prevail against the Church.
John 21: 25, ‘There are also many other thing that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written.’ We worship God & >not a Bible. However, Jesus is mysteriously present in Scripture. Still >God is more than just what is found in a Bible.
In a Catholic Church Service, a portion of the Bible is read as we ALL can, in a mysterious way, receive Jesus into our hearts by hearing Scripture. ‘Faith comes by hearing & hearing through the Word of God.’ I heard a Homily by a Priest where he spoke about ‘receiving a type of communion through the ear’> for everyone but especially those that can NOT receive the Eucharist.
In the Bible, Acts8:26-38, there is an event that demonstrates that ‘having a Bible & reading it’ does not necessarily bring about under standing of Scripture. Understanding in these passages was brought about by Philip. The Catholic Church as maintained for the last TWO Thousand years that it has Apostolic Authority to teach & explain Scripture.
To bring this comment back to the original thread: One of the titles of The Church established by Jesus Christ is: ‘Holy Mother our Church’ as the term ‘Mother’ means more than just ‘popping out babies.’ >Mother also means love & care that can only be given with a Mother’s Heart.
Looks like the image made like to corruptible man to me. Is it supposed to depict God?
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
I hope this straightens out a misunderstanding.
Respectfully,
Wintertime
So, is that a yes?
These are idols according to you?
Would you please post the scripture to prove that?
*chortle*
beautiful. where is the gospel mentioned?
You didnt answer my question. Is it supposed to depict God?
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