WTF
I don't usually interject myself into Mormon threads, and maybe I'm missing something, but can anybody explain to me why such an insulting word is being used here?
with such unkind bad word you use you make it hard for one to answer you.
condescension
Hebrews 2:9
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, John 1:14 (Rom. 9:5; 1 Tim. 3:16;
John 6
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
It was Heavenly Father who sent Jesus to earth to take on the mortal body and walk among men and was also tested by Satan when in this lower state.
Matt 4
Jesus fasts forty days and is tempted—
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.
Just so you know the word “condescension” referred to the fact that Jesus Christ our Savior chose to come down here to earth - to leave His Heavenly status TEMPORARILY in order to suffer and die, to experience all the trials and tribulations, pain, grief and sorrow, so no one could ever accuse Him of not caring and not understanding. Those of you who just read the title and didn’t bother to read the lovely words and meaning of the article missed the whole point - AS USUAL!
I love my Savior and do not appreciate the petty, creepy bigoted statements about Him I am reading on this thread from the anti Mormons who honestly don’t have a clue about my Savior and my Faith in Him. He is everything to me. He suffered and died for me to save me from my sins.
Merry Christmas.
“The condescension of the Lord Jesus Christ generally refers to His leaving His high and holy station in heaven and coming to live as a man on earth to accomplish the Atonement and Resurrection. Jesus came to live where mankind lives and as mankind lives so He could raise mankind to live where the Father lives and as the Father lives. Because He descended to earth to lift us to heaven, each one of us can have the “perfect brightness of hope” (2 Nephi 31:20) of progressing into the kingdom and presence of God.”
In my experience (having been Mormon for many years), this is a Mormon attempt to sound ‘intellectual’. However, it is not only a poor choice of words, it also shows how ‘condescending’ they are about Christ.
In Mormonism, Christ is a stepping stone, He only ‘saves’ them from physical death, not spiritual death, the LDS don’t believe in sin nature, and instead believe that they must work (by being good Mormons, going through their secret temple rituals, baptism for the dead and the like) and that Jesus is really not much more than a really good example (by being sinless He earned His godhood first). The Mormon phrase is “By grace we are saved after all we can do”.
Mormons are at the same time exclusivists (only Mormons can go to the Celestial Kingdom and become gods of their own planet) and universalists (everyone goes to at least one of the lower levels of Heaven - they have 3). In order to get to the REAL heaven (the Celestial Kingdom) you have to earn your way there. They turn Christ into a loan shark, a perfect spiritual brother (no different than us) who competed with Lucifer to be Savior, and ‘paid’ for our sins in the the Garden (not on the cross) by sweating blood, but we have to pay Him back by our good works. Nothing is free in Mormonism.
I can source all of these teachings using Mormon sources if you wish.
Don’t let Mormons fool you when they say “Jesus is our Savior and we love Him”. They redefine “savior”, “grace”, “heaven”, etc. Here is a link to a great site that has a Mormon/Christian dictionary (with Biblical references and LDS sources) that clearly shows the errors in Mormon doctrine...
http://utlm.org/onlineresources/terminologymain.htm
Probably; but don't wait for answers coming from the MORMON side.