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Occupy Group Faults {Anglican, Trinity} Church, a Onetime Ally
The New York Times ^ | 16.Dec.2011 | Matt Flegenheimer

Posted on 12/17/2011 5:44:36 AM PST by Cronos

For months, they were the best of neighbors: the slapdash champions of economic equality, putting down stakes in an outdoor plaza, and the venerable Episcopal parish next door, whose munificence helped sustain the growing protest.

But in the weeks since Occupy Wall Street was evicted from Zuccotti Park in Lower Manhattan, relations between the demonstrators and Trinity Wall Street, a church barely one block from the New York Stock Exchange, have reached a crossroads.

The displaced occupiers had asked the church, one of the city’s largest landholders, to hand over a gravel lot, near Canal Street and Avenue of the Americas, for use as an alternate campsite and organizing hub. The church declined, calling the proposed encampment “wrong, unsafe, unhealthy and potentially injurious.”

And now the Occupy movement, after weeks of targeting big banks and large corporations, has chosen Trinity, one of the nation’s most prominent Episcopal parishes, as its latest antagonist.

“We need more; you have more,” one protester, Amin Husain, 36, told a Trinity official on Thursday, ...

The criticism of Trinity was coming not only from protesters, but even from some Episcopal priests and other Protestant clergy members.

..Older than the country in which it stands, Trinity has a long and storied history. Alexander Hamilton was once a pew holder. The church shook, amid a storm of debris, as the towers of the World Trade Center fell.

Less known, though, is the church’s status as a real estate titan. Since 1705, when Queen Anne of England bequeathed more than 200 acres of what was then farmland to the church, Trinity Real Estate has come to control six million square feet of property, much of it office space around Hudson Square, financing an operation most parishes could never fathom.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: anglican; newyork; occupy; ows
“We need more; you have more,” one protester, Amin Husain, 36, told a Trinity official on Thursday,

Hussain -- go ask the Mosque at Ground Zero to give you more...

1 posted on 12/17/2011 5:44:39 AM PST by Cronos
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...And Robert Bruce Mullin, a professor at the General Theological Seminary of the Episcopal Church, said it was easy for other churches to criticize Trinity’s use of its property.

“It’s cheap grace,” he said. “It’s great to defend the rights of protesters in someone else’s backyard.”

Very true -- that's the problem with communism as a whole. It's so easy to demand "your fair share" from someone else, but when someone else comes to demand THEIR "fair share" of your goods....
2 posted on 12/17/2011 5:46:16 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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Wow...you can really see communism in action.
In China when the communist took over, they killed or imprisoned all the pastors and priest, and took everything they had. This is an evil movement to take over our country, but it will never work. Americans love their freedom and all of our rights too much to be fooled by these fools.
Just like yesterday, with that article yesterday that said 1/2 of all Americans are below the poverty level...what a crock of $hit....do they think we are dummies? The enemies of our Republic are trying to convince us that we are sucking dirt, and we all need to rise up and take by force what other people own. They will fail miserably!


3 posted on 12/17/2011 6:09:44 AM PST by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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They should go to Saudi Arabia or one of those other oil rich muslim nations to protest and demand more, more, more as they have more wealth then any deserve.


4 posted on 12/17/2011 6:10:47 AM PST by This I Wonder32460
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My Dutch ancestors were farming on Manhattan Island in the mid 1600s, before the POS English seized it in war.

Since Episcopalians are so peaceloving and compassionate and embrace all the causes of the poor and dispossessed, I think they owe me at least one of their Manhattan properties.

I’ll be asking nicely. At first. But I ain’t making no promises about where this will end up. Maybe I’ll have to camp out in the rector’s mansion to, shall we say, improve communications????


5 posted on 12/17/2011 6:28:04 AM PST by Houghton M.
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with that article yesterday that said 1/2 of all Americans are below the poverty level.....Poverty level of where? Where they have no cell phones, no free healthcare, no 35” TV’s, no free meals three times a day for the kids? Where?


6 posted on 12/17/2011 6:31:07 AM PST by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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This is what we in Florida call “Feeding Alligators”. Trinity Church kept feeding the Occutards, who in turn demand more and more. Now they are making demands that the church cannot meet, so they are turning on the church.

In a sense, this is a microcosm of socialism in general. The political class buys the support of the masses by giving them more and more at the expense of the few. When the political class can no longer meet the insatiable appetite of the moocher masses, the masses turn on the political class. We see this happening in Greece.

Feeding the Alligators...never a good idea


7 posted on 12/17/2011 6:44:16 AM PST by bobjam
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exactly. Socialism eventually uses up all the money.


8 posted on 12/17/2011 6:55:24 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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“We need more; you have more, ...”

Why am I reminded of Orwell's immortal "Animal Farm"? From what I heard about in their former Zucotti residence, they might even smell like farm animals.

9 posted on 12/17/2011 8:11:30 AM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existance!)
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