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To: Cronos

If you are a JW, too bad for you.

If not, you have actually listened to their propaganda and that’s too bad for you.

Stick to the Bible-—a REAL translation, not the JW’s version-—and see what you conclude.

(Never forget that Charles Taze Russell was caught committing perjury before the NY Supreme court early in the last century)


61 posted on 12/05/2011 4:59:30 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
oh, I'm definitely NOT a Jehovah's witness. To me it is illogical to say that Jesus is JUST a prophet -- either reject Him completely or acknowledge that HE is Lord, God and Savior.

I pointed out that they do not hold to what you said -- and let's wait for our Jehovah's Witness freeper to respond.

63 posted on 12/05/2011 6:16:52 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: Scanian; Cronos; aruanan; Manic_Episode
Scanian you stated:”Stick to the Bible-—a REAL translation, not the JW’s version-—and see what you conclude.”

I like the idea of sticking to the bible. I will use the ASV. There are others that are in complete agreement with the scriptures I will use.

I would like to limit the discussion to scriptures their meaning and logical conclusions. I will not be inclined to respond to opinions of non-scriptural sources. If you want to reference a scripture, at least identify the source, book, chapter and verse.

The following scriptures with associated comments provide the basis for my statement that I don't see how anyone can claim Jesus is God(Jehovah).

SOURCE: The American Standard Version Online Bible (ASV)

Colossians 1:15 (Jesus)who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him].

John 5:37 And the Father that sent me, he hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his form.

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he that is from God, he hath seen the Father.

John 20:17 Jesus saith to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended unto the Father: but go unto my brethren, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.

John 20:31 but these are written, that ye may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye may have life in his name.

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show unto his servants, [even] the things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his servant John;

Revelation 1:2 who bare witness of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, [even] of all things that he saw.

Revelation 3:14 And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God:

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith Jehovah, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts: I am the first, and I am the last; and besides me there is no God.

IN SUMMARY:

Jesus says NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD, Jesus say's God is his father.

John says Jesus is the SON OF GOD

JEHOVAH says BESIDES ME THERE IS NO GOD The Bible says Jesus is of creation. HE WAS CREATED!!

Chears:>) EasyDoesIt

73 posted on 12/06/2011 11:34:28 PM PST by eazdzit (Did your Congressman challenge/Qualify OBAMA? Throw the bums out. WE need a 3rd Party.Palin in 2012)
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