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To: GiovannaNicoletta

The Bible came after not before. If we had never had the book in which we are told about Jesus, we would still know because just as the Jews passed down their oral history for centuries before it was written, then so would the Christians have done the same. The problem arises because we have a book. People think that the book is it. The book is not it. Jesus is it. He is the Word.

The Bible is a set of books written over generations. These are revelations from God to his people.

The New Testament was written after the death and resurrection of Jesus. For instance Paul writes to the various churches where he has preached. He is admonishing or he is complimenting them on their adherence to what he has taught them. He did not give them writings, he gave them preaching. Oral.

The word in the Bible is the word of God. But John 1 is talking about Jesus as the Word, the second person of the Holy Trinity.

It is one of my favorite passages in the Bible.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

The Word is God. And Jesus is God.

I have no clue what words God has ever said that aren’t in the Bible. If you know please tell me.


534 posted on 12/03/2011 1:45:34 PM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (Member of the First Church of Christ, I am Catholic)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
Are you saying that it is just sheer coincidence that Jesus Christ is referred to as "the Word" and God says that He exalts "His Word" above His own name?

Since I don't accept your premise that Jesus Christ had no part in writing the Bible, and since you appear to believe that everything that God wrote in His Word would have been passed down in story form over the last 2000 years in it's exact present form, and since you appear to believe that there are no eternal consequences to denying the Word of God, I will ask you this: Where do you find in Scripture anywhere that God states that He Word is optional to man, and that He gives man a choice whether to believe it and obey it?

In the book of Revelation alone, God tells us:

I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book. (Revelation 22:18,19)

And since Revelation is actually the Revelation of Jesus Christ, and since He tells us that anyone who adds to or takes away the words in that Book are doomed, what indication do you get in Scripture that God feels differently from any other Book that He put in the Bible?

I'm going to stick with what God said - that The Word is Jesus Christ and to deny that Word is to choose eternal separation from God. Unless you can provide Scripture which contradicts that, I'm going to have to go with what God tells me.

537 posted on 12/03/2011 2:22:43 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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