[Not gonna take it anymore]

****This is what happens when a person clings to a false, un-Biblical doctrine in the face of all proof that their doctrine is not from God, and then attempts to twist and force the Bible to fit their false doctrine.

It’s desperation which is born out of not knowing Christ as Savior.
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I agree completely. This is what happens when a made up doctrine from the 1800s becomes the entire theology of a desperate people who do not acknowledge Christ as Savior and Lord of their life.

These same people try mightily to guess the actual date of the end times and add unbiblical arguments to their doctrine.

[Quix]

We have documented that Dispensationalism and a Pre-Trib perspective go all the way back to the early church.

ABJECT IRRATIONAL DENIAL of FACTS does NOT help in the slightest, make your perspective more than laughable as a pathetic farce.

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[GiovannaNicoletta]

This is what happens when a made up doctrine from the 1800s becomes the entire theology of a desperate people

1 Thessalonians 4 was written in the 1800s?

These same people try mightily to guess the actual date of the end times and add unbiblical arguments to their doctrine.

Yet you have been totally incapable of producing proof of your allegations nor have you been able to provide Scripture to support your denial of the Scriptural doctrine of the Rapture. And as for the accusation that any of us who believe the Bible "guess the actual "date"? Give the name and the post number of the person who set a date for the "end times". Go ahead.

Try to find one shred of evidence to back up your accusations. And, while you're at it, give one scrap of Scripture to support your denial of 1 Thessalonians 4.