1 Thessalonians 4 was written in the 1800s?
These same people try mightily to guess the actual date of the end times and add unbiblical arguments to their doctrine.
Yet you have been totally incapable of producing proof of your allegations nor have you been able to provide Scripture to support your denial of the Scriptural doctrine of the Rapture. And as for the accusation that any of us who believe the Bible "guess the actual "date"? Give the name and the post number of the person who set a date for the "end times". Go ahead.
Try to find one shred of evidence to back up your accusations. And, while you're at it, give one scrap of Scripture to support your denial of 1 Thessalonians 4.
13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lords word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
How on earth do you get the Rapture from this?