Gay Episcopal Bishop to Preach at San Francisco Catholic Parish

Catholic Culture ^ | 11/22/11

[marshmallow]

A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.

Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.

[Iscool]

no mass, altar, sacrifice or Eucharist?????

how about no clue about Church History.

i love St Ignatius, who was personally taught the Faith from St John, the Apostle and author of John 6.

How many times are you going to embellish this story??? Ignautius did not learn from John the Apostle...

And again, Ignatius' writings were a forgery...Written a couple hundred years after the supposed Ignatius existed...

[Iscool]

The Pope owns much less than you do and his apartments are much smaller than your house is.

So he's not a king...He just lives like one...Has access to summer vacation homes...Can board a jet to anywhere in the world at the drop of a fish-hat...Servants at his beck and call...Want's for nothing...

Poor feller...

[D-fendr]

As it was and has always been for His Church:

"And this food is called among us Εὐχαριστία [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh."

--St. Justin Martyr, 100AD-165AD, First Apology in defense of the Christians

[Iscool]

I know how ignorant I am, so prove it without making use of the Bible.

Why??? Because that's what your side does??? Justify you religion without the use of the Bible??? Now that's funny....I'll debate, BUT LET'S LEAVE GOD OUT OF IT...

[HossB86]

[...]If it is perfectly OK for some to assume and post the worst about the Church it is equally OK for Church members to assume and post the worst about those that offer up that garbage. When they are repeatedly caught red handed it is even more fitting.

Instead of carping about something you perceive to be true, try that little trick called Google. Guess where I found that quote?

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/cath/catholic.htm

Hmmmm. Doesn't look like the banned site you referred to.

Nice red herring.

Hoss

[Natural Law]

"Justify you religion without the use of the Bible???

Let's not abandon the bible in our proofs nor cede ownership if it to the anti-Catholics and non-Christians. We must demand that they justify every word of their translations from the original Greek. We must challenge their assumptions and the false premise that some 16th century shysters had a better understanding of the idiomatic context of each word and phrase than the Early Church Fathers who spoke Kione Greek as their vernacular and wrote extensively on it. Do you really think that those who have already admitted at failing at Catholicism will have any greater success with any other denomination?

[2nd amendment mama]

Iscool - according Mark Bsnr you must live in a huge castle because according to Wikipedia, the Pope spends his summers in one. His Papal apartment also has 10 rooms. I know that I don't have any valuable art or 20,000 books like Pope Benedict personally owns (they had to build a new library to accommodate them). I'm not driven around in a luxury car or flown all over in my private plane.

[HossB86]

Don’t feel bad. As NetPope, elected hereon, the only thing I have is a virtual vatican, a virtual swiss guard, and virtual wealth.
:D
Hossus NetPopius I

BTW — I am selling virtual indulgences and virtual Simony.
:D

[D-fendr]

Do you really think that those who have already admitted at failing at Catholicism will have any greater success with any other denomination?

Only with The First Church Of Me.

[Natural Law]

"BTW — I am selling virtual indulgences and virtual Simony."

There is nothing virtual about the Simony you have been peddling. Convincing folks that sins are pre-forgiven for the mere price of stroking your ego makes it a very real sin. That is right up there with your Contumely, Defamation, Detraction, Calumny, Mendacity, and Concealing the Truth.

[presently no screen name]

Good one!

Do we pay in gold or silver, Hossus NetPopius I? (insert virtual genuflect)

[HossB86]

There is nothing virtual about the Simony you have been peddling. Convincing folks that sins are pre-forgiven for the mere price of stroking your ego makes it a very real sin. That is right up there with your Contumely, Defamation, Detraction, Calumny, Mendacity, and Concealing the Truth.

Oooh. Lots of fancy words. No substance. But fancy.

By the way -- could you please point to or show where I have tried to "peddle" anything about sins being "pre-forgiven" and having my ego stroked at the same time? Or do you just like swatting straw men?

Hoss

[HossB86]

(insert virtual genuflect)

You may rise, Presently. Kiss the ring. Stop staring at the Pointy Hat.

You may pay, er... tithe to us using PayPal as that is the method of payment as declared ex interwebzia

Please... do not drive the virtual NetPopeMobile. Thank you.

NetPope Hossus I

[presently no screen name]

The Vatican/RCC’s dream is to have that size of a congregation. They don’t, so they blame it on Luther. LOL! Liberalism - it’s always someone else’s fault.

[metmom]

I know how ignorant I am, so prove it without making use of the Bible. That’s my challenge to you.

If you used the Bible, you wouldn't be so ignorant.

Sheesh, anything but shining the light of God into a dark corner.

[rzman21]

The feeling is mutual regarding your ignorance.

[metmom]

I’ll be sending you a virtual check for aforementioned items through the virtual mail.

Let me know when they’re supposed to arrive......

[D-fendr]

The Vatican/RCC’s dream is to have that size of a congregation.

I don't think a Joel Olsteen feel good lecture is the model for the Church worship.

In terms of size only, I believe the Church has more than Joel.

Since you brought it up, how many are in the congregation of the church you attend?

[HossB86]

BTW... do you know what "Simony" is? Your use of it accusing me of doing it virtually really, really doesn't make any sense. Really.

And you repeated yourself unnecessarily there. Calumny or Mendacity would do. The rest? Maybe you're upset just because it's true.

Just saying....

Hoss