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Gay Episcopal Bishop to Preach at San Francisco Catholic Parish
Catholic Culture ^ | 11/22/11

Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow

A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.

Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.


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To: CynicalBear

There too busy trying to find what’s not there....and looking for it in equally all the wrong places....interesting their searching sites which oppose their faith rather than go to the sources referenced....once again proving most are not interested in defending their beliefs. Maybe because they can’t?


3,441 posted on 12/10/2011 7:20:51 AM PST by caww
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To: caww
>> Maybe because they can’t?<<

What other conclusion can one infer? Every time I’ve seen that tactic used no substantive refutation is ever forthcoming.

3,442 posted on 12/10/2011 7:24:48 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
Read Jude & the associated portion of Numbers. Anyone who is just making up their own religion and believes in the heresy of "priesthood of all believers" isn't going to let any Scripture they're shown make any difference, they're a heretic, they are following heresy into the worship of their own intellect, and given that they reject and do not participate in the Eucharist, they have on life in them and are too blind to understand Scripture. Telling such folks anything at all is just casting pearls before swine.

have a nice day

3,443 posted on 12/10/2011 7:27:31 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Mark....they are in his book. ...author, page, book referenced.


3,444 posted on 12/10/2011 7:29:39 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

Why are you reading books from the 1700s by Catholic Saints? Did you inherit a collection?

I just find it very difficult to believe that you read the book and assembled a list of quotes from a 300 year old writing. And that those quotes which you copied from the pages you noted just happened to support an anti-Catholic position.

But, I’m sure protestants ALWAYS tell the truth. /sarc


3,445 posted on 12/10/2011 7:30:10 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: caww
Mark....they are in his book. ...author, page, book referenced.

What concerns me is what is pulled out; does that change the meaning? And the fact that you have not actually referenced the website where you pulled these from is of note as well.

3,446 posted on 12/10/2011 7:32:14 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; caww

Yeah, Mark, they’re in the book. Read the book. Caww posted exerpts from the book, which caww claims to have read. No doubt owns an antique copy. Certainly didn’t get it from cut n paste anti-Catholic website. That’s just an ugly coincidence.


3,447 posted on 12/10/2011 7:33:06 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: CynicalBear

For what ever reason they remain stuck in a rut of thier own spinning now. What’s so hard about going to their authors book, which was referenced by page? instead the “ant-catholic” virus has swept them into its funnel and thus the spinning. ...round and round they go.


3,448 posted on 12/10/2011 7:36:49 AM PST by caww
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To: MarkBsnr

The hysterical denial is also interesting, LOL.


3,449 posted on 12/10/2011 7:39:31 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: Judith Anne

Will wait until the “anti-catholic” virus has let go of it’s grip on you guys and you are well enough to respond to the quotes given by him.


3,450 posted on 12/10/2011 7:40:57 AM PST by caww
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To: Rashputin; boatbums; caww
>>Telling such folks anything at all is just casting pearls before swine.<<

You have been answered more then adequately by boatbums on that. Anyone with a hunger for truth could see what scripture has to say. Don’t try to promote that nonsense to me again.

3,451 posted on 12/10/2011 7:43:31 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: MarkBsnr
What concerns me is what is pulled out; does that change the meaning?

Well you know what you can do to find that out....but the meaning is quite clear as quoted.

3,452 posted on 12/10/2011 7:44:54 AM PST by caww
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To: caww; MarkBsnr; Jvette; D-fendr

Look, it’s no secret you guys go to anti-Catholic websites. It’s no secret that you launder stuff from forbidden sites through those that are still acceptable. Why don’t you just admit what you ALL do? Are you ashamed? When someone has lied, it’s almost impossible to admit it and own the deed.

Not our problem. We don’t believe lies. Just like the “I was raised Catholic and the nuns were mean to me” meme, it is so transparent as to be laughable.


3,453 posted on 12/10/2011 7:46:22 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: Judith Anne

Ok......’assemble’ your own composite of what is quoted from the pages listed and we’ll go from there. Author, pages and book are there for your convienance.


3,454 posted on 12/10/2011 7:48:59 AM PST by caww
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To: Judith Anne
Prove the author is lying...after all he's one of yours Judith....book, pages, author have been given..go at it!

Waiting......

3,455 posted on 12/10/2011 7:52:11 AM PST by caww
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To: caww
What concerns me is what is pulled out; does that change the meaning?

Well you know what you can do to find that out....but the meaning is quite clear as quoted.

Why not tell me the website that you pulled your quotes from?

3,456 posted on 12/10/2011 7:53:54 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: caww

Where did I say the author was lying?


3,457 posted on 12/10/2011 7:55:41 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: MarkBsnr

LOL!! As if they’ll admit they go to anti-Catholic websites. As if that would surprise anyone.


3,458 posted on 12/10/2011 7:57:12 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: caww; MarkBsnr; Jvette; D-fendr; Judith Anne
Okay. I have the text from: http://www.archive.org/stream/thegloriesofmary00liguuoft/thegloriesofmary00liguuoft_djvu.txt

Your quote from page 160 does not appear on page 160.

Your quote from page 80 mixes the section title with the text.

Your quote from pages 82-83 leaves out the most important part: Then she will certainly pray her Son that he may pardon thee

Your quote from page 169 does not appear on page 169. It however in part quotes Justinian but as a statement and not as a question.

Your quote from pages 180-181 does not appear on those pages.

I would suggest that perhaps in the future that you read the actual source material rather than quoting antiCatholic websites without even acknowledging them. The quotes are taken out of context or simply made up.

3,459 posted on 12/10/2011 8:11:43 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Jvette; caww

Jvette already posted that she found the exact stuff from caww’s post on an anti-Catholic website, with the exact same elipses and punctuation. Clearly cut and pasted.

So it is not surprising that you have found that caww’s anti-Catholic website has several inaccurate quote just in those few sections. Heaven forbid there should be more examples. That’s why it is impossible to trust anything they post here.

Thanks for going to the trouble. Anyone lurking can see what was done. I’m not accusing anyone of lying, but for heaven’s sake, can’t the anti-Catholics just admit what they are? It’s like they’re ashamed of themselves...


3,460 posted on 12/10/2011 8:19:59 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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