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Gay Episcopal Bishop to Preach at San Francisco Catholic Parish
Catholic Culture ^ | 11/22/11

Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow

A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.

Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.


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To: rzman21; CynicalBear
No Mary. No Incarnation.

No truth.

God's plans will not be thwarted. If not Mary, then someone else.

3,301 posted on 12/09/2011 8:29:43 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Christians know Jesus Christ is fully God, always has been and always will be.

What's that got to do with the question I asked???

3,302 posted on 12/09/2011 8:32:05 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: CynicalBear

Stick with the Septuagint.


3,303 posted on 12/09/2011 8:33:26 AM PST by rzman21
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To: MarkBsnr

If you read Hosea you will see that the northern kingdom became not a people , so in effect they were divorced from him . The southern kingdom repented and came back from captivity 70 years later . If you read the whole story of Hosea and Gomer you will know that they are beloved to him and why he provided a ransom to buy them back .

Hos 1:1 The word of the LORD that came unto Hosea, the son of Beeri, in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam the son of Joash, king of Israel.
Hos 1:2 The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD.
Hos 1:3 So he went and took Gomer the daughter of Diblaim; which conceived, and bare him a son.
Hos 1:4 And the LORD said unto him, Call his name Jezreel; for yet a little while, and I will avenge the blood of Jezreel upon the house of Jehu, and will cause to cease the kingdom of the house of Israel.
Hos 1:5 And it shall come to pass at that day, that I will break the bow of Israel in the valley of Jezreel.
Hos 1:6 And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him, Call her name Loruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away.
Hos 1:7 But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen.
Hos 1:8 Now when she had weaned Loruhamah, she conceived, and bare a son.
Hos 1:9 Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.
Hos 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
Hos 1:11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.


3,304 posted on 12/09/2011 8:34:27 AM PST by Lera
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To: rzman21
>> I wasn’t referring to the KJV.<<

If you were referring to what I posted you were referring to the KJV.

3,305 posted on 12/09/2011 8:36:28 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: metmom
So you see God in the following manner:


3,306 posted on 12/09/2011 8:36:28 AM PST by rzman21
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To: metmom
So you see God in the following manner:


3,307 posted on 12/09/2011 8:36:44 AM PST by rzman21
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To: CynicalBear

The KJV is riddled with errors.
http://www.angelfire.com/hi2/graphic1designer/errors.html


3,308 posted on 12/09/2011 8:38:40 AM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21
>>No Mary. No Incarnation.<<

Are you saying that if Mary had not cooperated God would have been defeated and we wouldn’t have a Savior? Surely you jest. I can assure you that the God I serve is greater then that.

3,309 posted on 12/09/2011 8:39:28 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: rzman21
>>I’m holding you to your standard for deciding what is scripture and what isn’t.<<

Was or was not Revelation written by John the Apostle?

3,310 posted on 12/09/2011 8:40:45 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: rzman21
Baptists are Docetists when it comes to the Eucharist. Donatists when it comes to Baptism and their claim that only the worthy belong to the Church. Nestorian in their denial that Mary is the Mother of God. Arian in their denial that the Church has both divine and human attributes just like Jesus. Iconoclast in their views about icons and sacred art.

In other words, the Baptists are the closet thing to the church found in scripture than any other group...

And they're bad because they claim only the worthy belong to the church...And of course, you say differently...

Only worthy Baptists belong to the church but unworthy Catholics belong to the church, the Body of Jesus Christ, the Bride of Jesus...

If I was you, I wouldn't leave my chair...I wouldn't dare go anywhere for fear something would happen to me before I got saved...

You need a bible and a lot of praying...To Jesus...

3,311 posted on 12/09/2011 8:41:34 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: CynicalBear

The undergirding text of the translation I posted was the ancient Greek text that predates the texts used to produce the KJV by about 1,000 years.


3,312 posted on 12/09/2011 8:42:58 AM PST by rzman21
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To: metmom; rzman21
>>God's plans will not be thwarted. If not Mary, then someone else.<<

Amen and Amen! The Catholics need to come to the realization that it’s God who gets the glory not Mary.

3,313 posted on 12/09/2011 8:43:12 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: rzman21
"Greek Catholics still use the Septuagint, as do the Greek and Russian Orthodox for their scripture readings."

Thanks for pointing that out. I'm sure I had heard that sometime along the way and it does make sense, but it wasn't anywhere near the portion of my brain that recalls these things. :-)

Sadly, I guess it'll have to stop, though. Someone back around 300 said the whole Old Testament had to be thrown out (Marcion? I get the heretics mixed up and can't keep track of them very well), and you know the new rule formulated at the Third Council of Titmouse held according to the standards and nontraditions of "YOPIOS". The new rule makes it clear that if anyone ever questioned a portion of Scripture it has to go.

Regards

3,314 posted on 12/09/2011 8:44:05 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Interesting thought: were the hippies the result of the Reformation, or at least the result of Rapture theology?
Interesting thought: was Hitler the result of his catholic education ?
3,315 posted on 12/09/2011 8:44:46 AM PST by Lera
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To: CynicalBear

Free-will. If you deny free-will, then your idea of who God is comes far closer to the Muslims than mine does.


3,316 posted on 12/09/2011 8:45:54 AM PST by rzman21
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To: caww

Have you actually read this?

I notice that many of the posted quotes leave out things between the beginning of the quote and the end. In other words, they all have a “....” which indicates things in between the beginning of the quote and the end are left out.

When I google just the quotes what comes up? Why, a list of anti Catholic sites that take just these quotes, presented exactly as they are here and then goes on to denounce Catholicism using these REDACTED quotes as proof that Catholics worship Mary and “replace” God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit with her.

It is deceptive practice of these sites and no-nothings who gobble up the deception and repeat them are counting on gullible people who will never read the entire work to nod in agreement that indeed, Catholics worship Mary.

St. Ligouri was a devout Christian Catholic who had a special love and devotion to Mary. The work in question, “The Glories of Mary” was a defense against the same type of attacks on Marialogy that we see on these forums.

I do not have the book, and it will take some time for me to find the COMPLETE quotes but suffice it to say for now, that what was cut and pasted here was meant to inflame and not educate or edify.


3,317 posted on 12/09/2011 8:51:15 AM PST by Jvette
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To: CynicalBear

When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
2 Thessalonians 1:10

When you give glory to the saints, you give glory to God.


3,318 posted on 12/09/2011 8:52:39 AM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21; metmom

More like God saw Mary as a human incubator.

If not her, then some other dupe.


3,319 posted on 12/09/2011 8:53:39 AM PST by Jvette
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To: Iscool

The Baptists practice creative theology.


3,320 posted on 12/09/2011 8:53:39 AM PST by rzman21
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