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Catholic Prophecy [Why some Catholics anticipate the return of Monarchy]
The Catholic Knight Blog ^ | The Catholic Knight

Posted on 11/13/2011 5:02:38 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: mas cerveza por favor

Methinks you confuse the American Revolution with the French, and the kind of people produced from each. Two very different things. The USA is not of the French Revolution, Socialist, tradition, from which spawned Communism.

The Socialist element we have now in our country is utterly alien to the spirit of the American Revolution. And must be overthrown...along with the Papist-Monarchy you advocate, a purely European thing.

ANY form of totalitarian government and control, ESPECIALLY YOURS, is totally foreign to America.


421 posted on 11/15/2011 2:06:06 PM PST by sasportas
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To: allmendream

It is you who are servile for accepting the present chains that rest upon our shoulders. I hope that we can restore the constitutional republic, but that would require realism toward the dangers of oligarchy. The Founders Fathers formed an elite which had such realism. Our current ruling elite is hostile and predatory. Deny that if you will.


422 posted on 11/15/2011 2:06:57 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor
I don't have a ruling elite. I am not ruled, I am -at best governed.

You want a ruling elite. You want to bow down to them and say they have a Divine right to rule you.

Anti-American ignorant and servile is no way to go through life son.

Your delusions will accomplish nothing, other than to inform people of your anti-Americanism, your servility, and your delusion - so by all means - carry on!

423 posted on 11/15/2011 2:10:15 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: sasportas
Methinks you confuse the American Revolution with the French, and the kind of people produced from each. Two very different things.

Agreed. Ours was more a War of Independence than a revolution. Unfortunately, the French revolt was actually a world revolution. That revolution has now, to varying degrees, engulfed the world.

424 posted on 11/15/2011 2:12:14 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: allmendream

The ruling oligarchy of elites has been in power a long time. No one is installed without their saction to be installed.


425 posted on 11/15/2011 2:21:21 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: allmendream
I don't have a ruling elite. I am not ruled, I am -at best governed.

No president can be elected without the financial and media support of the elite. Right?

You want to bow down to them and say they have a Divine right to rule you.

Divine right is a Protestant concept. The government looses legitimacy when it makes war upon God.

426 posted on 11/15/2011 2:22:02 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

The authors are Roman Catholic.

They insisted that the evidence speak for itself.

They were exhaustively thorough and meticulous.

The RCC has long dismissed the truth in favor of it’s own power-mongering fantasies.


427 posted on 11/15/2011 2:23:14 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
And they are controlled by the UFO’s?

How is that immanently predicted financial collapse coming there Quix?

Did the alien overlords or their ruling oligarchy of elites cancel it without notifying you?

428 posted on 11/15/2011 2:23:21 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
We still are a Republic, not a Democracy.

On paper, maybe. The election of Obama should make everyone realize its probably only on paper these days.

Think we have free elections? Go try to run for major office, either party, and see how far you get.

Unless you're one of the GOP or Dem anointed, and you have major money behind you, you will not likely get far.

There are occasional exceptions to this, like Sarah in Alaska, but they are only rare exceptions.

429 posted on 11/15/2011 2:23:49 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: sasportas

INDEED.


430 posted on 11/15/2011 2:24:34 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: rzman21

They’d been too close to the cluelessness of the Roman system far too long.


431 posted on 11/15/2011 2:25:50 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
Long before the Protestants made the scene, Catholics were saying that a King had a Divine right to rule, under the Pope.

I do not make war upon God by denying the legitimacy of your delusional desire to bow down to a man and call him your Lord and King.

You would apparently replace the nebulous conspiracy theory “ruling elite” with an overt direct and acknowledged ruling elite - and you see this as an improvement?

432 posted on 11/15/2011 2:27:09 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
We are not now and have never been a Democracy.

The election of 0bama as a President in our Republic Constitutional system reiterates that we are a Republic. Perhaps not a very wise one circa 2008 - but that is not the argument you are trying to make.

For us to be a Democracy we would have to get rid of the Executive branch entirely and depend upon a Legislature to shape laws that the entire American electorate would then vote up or down.

Amazing to me that you Anti-American boot lickers of Monarchy cannot even make a cogent argument against a Republic without falling back on arguments against Democracy.

Even a Democracy, as abhorrent as it is, would be better than being under the absolute rule of one man via hereditary power.

It is a delusion. An anti-American delusion. Nothing will ever come of it. There will never be a Catholic King of America. Thank GOD!

433 posted on 11/15/2011 2:33:12 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
Because your delusion will accomplish nothing, other than a few belly laughs at how blind and servile some can be.

This country is already blind and servile. You are delusional if you think these rah rah slogans from an age long past still actually apply to this country today.

Ask the 4000 babies "legally" killed in the womb today how much their "Republic" did for them lately. Ask all the kids molested by a government protected class of pervert pederasts how much their "Republic" did for them lately. Ask Terri Schiavo how how much her "Republic" did for her lately.

Your slogans aren't even hollow. They are a vicious empty lie.

If you'd rather live under an evil corrupt "Republic" than a Godly Monarch, so be it. I don't care what kind of government we have, as long as it turns to and returns to God and His Ways and His Laws.

If it can still be accomplished by our Republican system, praise God. So be it!

If not, then let God erase this wicked current system and raise up whatever it takes to restore this country to its Christian foundations.

434 posted on 11/15/2011 2:35:16 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: sasportas
"Peering back through history" quite a few who post here see exactly what they want to see. The Popes who were horrible never changed doctrine and never altered the teaching of the Church, a solid illustration that the Church was being protected by more than human power, in spite of the fact that they should have never been Pope in the first place. Like the Cardinal laughed and told Napoleon, "how can you destroy the Church when Christ has defended the Her from Popes, Bishops, and Priests who have been trying to destroy the Church ever since the Apostles?" The Church is just full of sinners, unlike so many of the sinless and pure folk in groups peddling the "Sola Yourselfa" sliding board who are each one individually infallible and each one interpreting Scripture to mean whatever they want it to mean.

Of course, all the offshoots of the Protestant revolt against Christianity don't have a problem with being made up of sinners, they start a new variant to permit whatever they feel like doing, be it abortion, serial polygamy, or homosexual pastors. Redefine sin, and sin is gone, that's been the way of all non-Catholics who call themselves Christian ever since Luther decided that he was smarter and more righteous than any human who had ever lived including the Apostles. Those who agree with him, naturally, see whatever they want to see in history and in their day to day lives because they're among those in the same special fantasy league of infallible, roll your own, interpret it all for yourself, saints that Luther made up for himself to reside in.

I feel sure that anyone asking to be "enlightened" has the means to find out for themselves if they really care, but of course, it's much better to cling to the lies and propaganda and pretend to care than to actually care enough to find out for yourself.

have a nice day

435 posted on 11/15/2011 2:35:32 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Quix
The authors are Roman Catholic.

Do these authors believe in the reality of miracles, such as at Lordes, Guatalupe, or in the Gospels? If not, then they are just atheists or pagans operating under the label of Catholic.

436 posted on 11/15/2011 2:36:03 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: smvoice; UriÂ’el-2012
Acts 2:27 For you will not abandon my soul to Hades, or let your Holy One see corruption.

Acts 2:31 he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption.

Acts 13:35 Therefore he says also in another psalm, "'You will not let your Holy One see corruption.'

437 posted on 11/15/2011 2:38:24 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
This country's Christian foundation was a REJECTION of Monarchy.

Freedom is messy. Some would prefer the safety of slavery to the hazards of freedom, it is true.

The ideals that founded our nation are not a vicious empty lie - it is an empty lie that there is any safety to be found in slavery to a King.

There is no such thing as a Godly Monarch. All men are sinners, all power given to corrupt men tends to corrupt.

Our system acknowledges that men are flawed and have no Divine right to rule - only a role to govern if elected for a time by their fellow citizens.

Your system just hopes and prays that your Monarch will not decide to take everything from you today, but tomorrow is of course another day - another day of willing slavery for anti-American bootlickers.

438 posted on 11/15/2011 2:40:24 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Cvengr
This is feasible because of the judgment of all human sins at the Cross now allows God in His perfect justice and righteousness to consider our faith as the same as that of the Son in obedience to His Will, as righteousness, and He by His grace then gives us a regenerated human spirit with eternal life.

Most excellent synopsis.

439 posted on 11/15/2011 2:40:41 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: allmendream
You would apparently replace the nebulous conspiracy theory “ruling elite” with an overt direct and acknowledged ruling elite - and you see this as an improvement?

LOL. Who you gonna believe, the media or your lyin' eyes? Obviously the media.

You hang on to the deception like a security blanket. Real men prefer leaders who govern in the light of day.

440 posted on 11/15/2011 2:44:35 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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