[Rashputin]

"Peering back through history" quite a few who post here see exactly what they want to see. The Popes who were horrible never changed doctrine and never altered the teaching of the Church, a solid illustration that the Church was being protected by more than human power, in spite of the fact that they should have never been Pope in the first place. Like the Cardinal laughed and told Napoleon, "how can you destroy the Church when Christ has defended the Her from Popes, Bishops, and Priests who have been trying to destroy the Church ever since the Apostles?" The Church is just full of sinners, unlike so many of the sinless and pure folk in groups peddling the "Sola Yourselfa" sliding board who are each one individually infallible and each one interpreting Scripture to mean whatever they want it to mean.

Of course, all the offshoots of the Protestant revolt against Christianity don't have a problem with being made up of sinners, they start a new variant to permit whatever they feel like doing, be it abortion, serial polygamy, or homosexual pastors. Redefine sin, and sin is gone, that's been the way of all non-Catholics who call themselves Christian ever since Luther decided that he was smarter and more righteous than any human who had ever lived including the Apostles. Those who agree with him, naturally, see whatever they want to see in history and in their day to day lives because they're among those in the same special fantasy league of infallible, roll your own, interpret it all for yourself, saints that Luther made up for himself to reside in.

I feel sure that anyone asking to be "enlightened" has the means to find out for themselves if they really care, but of course, it's much better to cling to the lies and propaganda and pretend to care than to actually care enough to find out for yourself.

have a nice day

[sasportas]

You didn’t answer my question, Rash, where did the Roman ecclesiatical-monarchial system originate? If it wasn’t Constantine, then when? All you did was go on and on about events that happened hundreds of years after the fact.

“The Protestant revolt against Christianity”

No, my friend, it wasn’t a revolt against Christianity, not true Christianity andyways, it was a revolt against an ecclesiatical tyrannical monster (beast if you please) that called itself Christianity.

As to the blather about the life styles of some Protestants, are you sure you want to go there? Dare I mention your pedophile leadership?

I have been around for awhile, most Catholics I’ve known lived much more sinful lives than most Protestants I’ve known. We’re speaking in generalities here. We are not a monolithic thing outside of your institution, you know.