The Mormon Question That Won't Go Away

Fox News ^ | Oct. 28, 2011 | Juan Williams

[Colofornian]

A new Washington Post-Pew Research poll asked Americans to pick one word they associate with each of the GOP presidential candidates.

For Herman Cain, they picked “9-9-9,” his brilliantly named – and controversial -- plan for simplifying the nation’s tax code. For Rick Perry, Americans picked the word “Texas” – the state he has governed for the past 11 years.

But for Mitt Romney, the answer was “Mormon.”

The poll respondents didn’t pick “Massachusetts,” the state Romney served as governor. They did not associate Romney with “Health Care” or “Businessman” or even “Nice Hair.”

The answer by an overwhelming margin was "Mormon."

This poll came on the heels of another poll last week from Associated Press/Gfk which found 19 percent of Republicans say they are less likely to vote for a Mormon candidate. That is bigger hurdle for Republicans than voting for a black candidate. Only 4 percent of Republicans said they are less likely to vote for a candidate if he is black.

A CNN/ORC International poll this month found 36 percent of Americans don’t believe Mormonism to be a Christian religion –51 percent said yes – and 17 percent of all Americans say they are less likely to vote for a candidate who is Mormon.

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...it is getting harder by the day to pretend that Romney’s Mormon faith is not an issue with American voters, particularly the Evangelical Christians.

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[Some people might] “Prefer it if I would simply distance myself from my religion [and] say that it is more a tradition than my personal conviction…” Romney said. “That -- I will not do. I believe in my Mormon faith and I endeavor to live by it..."

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People who pretend the issue does not exist are only fooling themselves.

[Colofornian]

From the article: This poll came on the heels of another poll last week from Associated Press/Gfk which found 19 percent of Republicans say they are less likely to vote for a Mormon candidate. That is bigger hurdle for Republicans than voting for a black candidate. Only 4 percent of Republicans said they are less likely to vote for a candidate if he is black. A CNN/ORC International poll this month found 36 percent of Americans don’t believe Mormonism to be a Christian religion –51 percent said yes – and 17 percent of all Americans say they are less likely to vote for a candidate who is Mormon.

From the article: ...it is getting harder by the day to pretend that Romney’s Mormon faith is not an issue with American voters, particularly the Evangelical Christians...People who pretend the issue does not exist are only fooling themselves.

[Tanniker Smith]

The press constantly emphasizes his Mormon faith and then they are shocked -- SHOCKED! -- when people associate him with his Mormon faith?

Okay, let me put it this way -- If I made a list of the Top 5 Things I Hate about Romney, and I could very quickly, "Mormon" wouldn't make the list.

[jwatz49]

Just want to get ahead of the Mormon hater Trolls. If the Mormon Church is a Cult then Christianity is a Cult; The Mormon Church teaches Jesus, prays in Jesus’s name,Praises Jesus in its hymns. You haters need to think it over. By the way, I don’t believe Romney is conservative enough to get the Mormon vote.

[SaraJohnson]

All the Rinos need to do is send out Karl Rove and Bill Bennet to tell the public to shut up about it like they did to GOP voters. It’s politically incorrect to consider Romney’s faith. So shut up!/s/

Instead, the public must focus on Romney’s grand successes. Like Romneycare. We know how much the American public love Obamacare...

Romney will lose to Obomba.

[Pollster1]

It’s not that it’s politically incorrect to consider that big government liberal’s faith, it’s just irrelevant or incredibly minor compared with Romney’s goal of continuing to massively expand the federal government. We can barely afford half the government we are currently spending our children’s money on. We certainly cannot afford all the federal coddling and meddling that Romney dreams of.

The LDS church? I don’t even see its relevance to this question considering the massive damage that Romney’s political goals would inflict. I’m not Mormon, but if I did convert it would not change my views on Romney in the slightest. I’d still refuse to vote for him even if he got the GOP nomination.

[leenie312]

I am not a troll...but I need to correct you on the definition of a cult...a cult is a group of people who preach ANOTHER Jesus..rather than the Jesus of the Bible. The Mormon faith has an addendum to the Bible ..it is called the book of Mormon. The Bible declares it is complete all by itself. The book of Mormom denies that..The Mormon Jesus is way different than the Christian Jesus who is found in the Bible. I don’t hate Mormons...I have Mormons in my family line. I take it you are Mormon...I would challenge you to read about Jesus in the Bible all by itself and then compare him to the Jesus that is preached in the Mormon faith...granted a lot of similarities...but it is the differences that evangelicals are talking about. The Bible is complete in and of itself..it does not need another testament...if it were not so then it wouldn’t be proclaimed in the book of Revelation, Proverbs, Deuteronomy and elsewhere in the Bible. Disagreeing with a Mormon does not mean I automatically become a “hater”..I just simply disagree.

[leenie312]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2799595/posts

[ThePatriotsFlag]

It is “accepted” if you are gay, but “denounced” if you are a Mormon. Time to go back to square one and start looking at priorities.

[Elsie]

You haters need to think it over.
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Just want to get ahead of the Mormon hater Trolls.

You did...

But AFTER the MORMON 'hate' that is shown HERE!

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Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

 

 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses  5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses  8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses  8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses  10:230).

Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

 

 

Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses , vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).

 

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

 

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

 

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

[SaraJohnson]

The LDS church? I don’t even see its relevance to this question...

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I agree that what Republicans should look at is Romney’s socialism.

But the media will make Mormonism central to the general election if Romney is annointed by the Rinos. This poll shows Americans are looking at him as a Mormon and the media will be happy define what that means. Magic underwear...

[Elsie]

Time to go back to square one and start looking at priorities.

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In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.

1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)

[Graybeard58]

By the way, I don’t believe Romney is conservative enough to get the Mormon vote.

Wanna bet?

Utah primary 2008 -Mitt Romney, 89.49%. Nearest competitor, John McCain with 5.38%%.

[turducken]

That’s just the point, there is no “addendum” to the Bible.

[Graybeard58]

The Mormon Church teaches Jesus, prays in Jesus’s name,Praises Jesus in its hymns

Delve into it just a little bit, I mean just scratch the surface a bit and you will find that it's not the same Jesus worshiped by Christians.

You haters need to think it over.

Mormonism is the detestable part. Think it over.

[leenie312]

Joseph Smith had no knowledge of Greek or Hebrew..so how could he translate the Bible properly? Don’t the Mormons deny the Trinity? That is not just a little difference..that is a HUGE difference in the two Jesus’s preached.

[Patton@Bastogne]

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Yesterday I posted something to the effect that if Mitt Romney won the GOP nomination, the MSM would broadcast 24/7 to the entire population of planet Earth ...

... all of the strange and weird and racist aspects of Mormonism.


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Now ... I'm neither a Mormon, or an alleged "Mormon-basher" ...

Mormons ... like Presbyterians and Wiccans ... have EVERY right to hold their own private religious beliefs ...


However ... Facts are Facts ... and regardless that Mormons invoke the name of "Jesus" ... they also have some VERY PECULIAR BELIEFS ...


Especially from the perspective of the typical uneducated Joe-Six-Pack (and Linda-Sue his live-in girl friend with two kids) who know more about NASCAR, Hulk Hogan and "The DOG" bounty hunter ... than George Washington.


These (alas) typical American voters will SCREAM with LAUGHTER over Mitt's special Mormon Underwear Ceremony, Multiple Wives, and those LEGENDARY LOST CITY-FORTRESSES in North America ... allegedly that looked like the gigantic ancient cities like Athens and Jerusalem ...


I had the opportunity to peruse the Book of Mormon one night while staying in a Marriott Hotel (they don't allow Gideon Bibles in the hotel rooms) ...


Honestly, it was hiliarious ... although the artwork (depicting various events in Mormom history) was impressive ...


I can only imagine how an Andy Rooney (CBS Sixty Minutes) would enjoy satricizing selected episodes ...


Better (worse) yet ... Saturday Night Live would have a FIELD DAY with this material ... it's really that perposterous ...


I genuinely feel bad for Mitt Romney and his family ... as they would become the MSM Laughingstock of the Western Hemisphere ...


All delievered by the same NAZI PROPAGANDA MACHINE that told (convinced) America in 2008 to elect a COMPLETE IDIOT-SOCIALIST (without a valid birth certificate) named Barak Hussein Obama ...


Poor Mitt Romney ...and the ENTIRE GOP National TICKET ... would go down in FLAMES under those attacks ...


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Accordingly, I am NOT anti-Mormon ...

I know there are many HONEST ... TRUTHFUL ... PATRIOTIC ... Mormons who sincerely practice their choosen religious faith ...


Mitt Romney ... ISN'T ... one of them, however.


Mitt Romney is a LIAR, CAREER POLITICIAN, a potential QUISLING who would betray "anything" to get elected President of the United States ...


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Thanks for your time ...




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[Godzilla]

The Mormon Church teaches Jesus, prays in Jesus’s name,Praises Jesus in its hymns.

Oh, like 'Praise to the man"

The construct of the Jesus of mormonism shares only the name with the Jesus of the bible and Christianity.

Dare say the mormon church spends more time indoctrinating people that smith was a true prophet and the bom is a real translation than is spent on Jesus.

[Coldwater Creek]

Using the word “HATE” is way too strong to describe non-mormons.

We only want you to see the truth.

If I hated you I would just let you go your merry way straight to Hell.

Love in Christ,

Maria

[Tucker39]

The Mittster would get the Mormon vote for a reason vaguely similar to why J.C. Watts said he HAD TO vote for Zero!