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My Faith: Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), from Catholic to Muslim
CNN ^ | 9/1/11 | Chris Welch

Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow

Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.

But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.

“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.

“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”

Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.

But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.

“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”

It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Islam; Theology
KEYWORDS: blackmuslims; islam; keithellison; muslim
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To: smvoice
Here's Mary, loaded up in back, somehow bringing peace to the driver as he travels the road of life, and I-45.

Beats heck out of road rage. It's possible you are not aware of that.

4,361 posted on 09/20/2011 9:14:38 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

Yes, I’m certain he does not suffer from road rage. He is the one traveling in the left lane, going 40 miles an hour, not bothering to look in his rear view mirror to see the massive traffic jam, since the speed limit is 65. I’m certain the drivers behind him are praying to that Mary statue, that she would intercede on their behalf, to make him get over and out of the way.


4,362 posted on 09/20/2011 9:21:10 AM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: smvoice

Okay. If you say so.


4,363 posted on 09/20/2011 9:22:17 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: smvoice
And assuming everyone will be in agreement.

THAT's assuming facts not in evidence. So, except for their being, in your view, wrong, those Catholics who repeat assertions with arguments which would only persuade those who already agree with them are really doing the right thing, except for the wrong side.

The "flogging" will continue as long as longsuffering and doctrine continue for reproof and rebuke and exhortation.

Ah. So declamation in place of conversation. Carry on then. Now I see why your side doesn't think it right to pray for humility.

4,364 posted on 09/20/2011 9:34:56 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: D-fendr

FR needs a like button.


4,365 posted on 09/20/2011 9:36:32 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Don’t pretzel converse with me today, MD. I’m really not in the mood. You are the one who first used the term “flogging” for providing Scripture to defend a position. Humility? How about TRUTH? Humility without the truth is fake. And deceiving. It’s a work of the carnal mind. It’s an outward show of piety. Without truth, it’s cheap and insulting.


4,366 posted on 09/20/2011 9:41:22 AM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
Not gonna take it anymore is a guy? Or is Not gonna take it anymore a girl? Or is it Not gonna take it anymore so that we think he/she is a ???

Not gonna take it anymore - Definition [see Fed Up]
(n.) Descriptor usually found at bottom of reply. Frequently describes an attribute of poster.

See Howard Beale

Not gonna take it anymore

4,367 posted on 09/20/2011 9:48:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: RnMomof7
Thanks for your reply.

It was a TYPE of Christ pointing TO HIM

It's either a type of Christ or a pointing to Christ (not a type). My point was that since the Ark is definitely NOT God, making it a type would be more in the direction of blasphemy, responding to your charge of same.

Mary is not God and carried God. The type here for Ark/Mary is more clear - and I believe, less blasphemous for the reason above.

4,368 posted on 09/20/2011 9:53:52 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Mad Dawg
The Supreme Entity is my manager of smallish, wooly quadrupeds (or, alternatively, caprines.)

"Nay!", I say!

We caprines have GOATherds - NOT SHEPards!

(Think Sound of Music)

The Lonely Goatherd

4,369 posted on 09/20/2011 9:58:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: conservonator
I hear ya, some protestants say believers have to handle snakes and drink poison to show their faith, not my belief, just sayin'.

Them 'some' people make it tough for EVERY religion; doncha think?

4,370 posted on 09/20/2011 10:00:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Mad Dawg
Neither am I edified by the return at least every two months of this subject, this flogging.

And yet; so many ARE!


4,371 posted on 09/20/2011 10:03:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

And if THAT wasn’t enough...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjSjB-3xPVM


4,372 posted on 09/20/2011 10:13:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: smvoice

I know.. sorrta like sticking a statue of her in a bath tub


4,373 posted on 09/20/2011 10:54:45 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Elsie

You think that’s true in Hebrew? Real question.


4,374 posted on 09/20/2011 10:57:39 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: Elsie

If it weren’t for some people, this would be a pretty boring forum ;)


4,375 posted on 09/20/2011 10:58:03 AM PDT by conservonator
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To: Elsie

They should come on Free Republic if they REALLY want to do penance.


4,376 posted on 09/20/2011 10:59:25 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: smvoice
You are the one who first used the term “flogging” for providing Scripture to defend a position.

Actually I used the term “flogging” as a reference to the old saying “to flog a dead horse” meaning to return to a topic which has already been discussed many many times with little resolution because I thought bringing up the intercession of the saints YET AGAIN was going to be a waste of time.

What seems obvious to one side seems artificial and sophistical to the other. One side thinks its arguments from Scripture are solid and persuasive while the other thinks they're a phony as a threedollar bill.

But if you want to go over it again, that's your affair.

(I would like to observe here that FR'sspell check offered "Euro dollar" for my original "three-dollar". Just sayin'.

One of the reasons, one of the things in the back of my alleged mind which led me to bring up the question of Pauline Mysticism was that I think that area of question might shed light on the differences about the meaning and, so to speak, the application of koinonia.

As a hint, we all are much in accord over what we are saved FROM. But we have very different ideas of what we are saved FOR and TO.

4,377 posted on 09/20/2011 11:37:18 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: RnMomof7

LOL! Why woul...nevermind, just LOL!


4,378 posted on 09/20/2011 12:58:00 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Mad Dawg; metmom
I don't get it, and I don't see a mark.

Well, MD, it was said with an eye to humor. Sorry about that.

Otherwise, it was said to state an agreement with MM's assessment of what I believe to be a faulty teaching of the RCC.

I found great joy in praising MM! :D

Hoss

4,379 posted on 09/20/2011 1:12:21 PM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: HossB86

It is always fun to praise the good. That’s why at least SOME worship is a group endeavor.

So I’m glad you found joy.


4,380 posted on 09/20/2011 1:56:45 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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