My Faith: Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), from Catholic to Muslim

CNN ^ | 9/1/11 | Chris Welch

[Judith Anne]

Here's Mary, loaded up in back, somehow bringing peace to the driver as he travels the road of life, and I-45.

Beats heck out of road rage. It's possible you are not aware of that.

[smvoice]

Yes, I’m certain he does not suffer from road rage. He is the one traveling in the left lane, going 40 miles an hour, not bothering to look in his rear view mirror to see the massive traffic jam, since the speed limit is 65. I’m certain the drivers behind him are praying to that Mary statue, that she would intercede on their behalf, to make him get over and out of the way.

[Judith Anne]

Okay. If you say so.

[Mad Dawg]

And assuming everyone will be in agreement.

THAT's assuming facts not in evidence. So, except for their being, in your view, wrong, those Catholics who repeat assertions with arguments which would only persuade those who already agree with them are really doing the right thing, except for the wrong side.

The "flogging" will continue as long as longsuffering and doctrine continue for reproof and rebuke and exhortation.

Ah. So declamation in place of conversation. Carry on then. Now I see why your side doesn't think it right to pray for humility.

[Mad Dawg]

FR needs a like button.

[smvoice]

Don’t pretzel converse with me today, MD. I’m really not in the mood. You are the one who first used the term “flogging” for providing Scripture to defend a position. Humility? How about TRUTH? Humility without the truth is fake. And deceiving. It’s a work of the carnal mind. It’s an outward show of piety. Without truth, it’s cheap and insulting.

[Elsie]

Not gonna take it anymore is a guy? Or is Not gonna take it anymore a girl? Or is it Not gonna take it anymore so that we think he/she is a ???

Not gonna take it anymore - Definition [see Fed Up]
(n.) Descriptor usually found at bottom of reply. Frequently describes an attribute of poster.

See Howard Beale

Not gonna take it anymore

[D-fendr]

Thanks for your reply.

It was a TYPE of Christ pointing TO HIM

It's either a type of Christ or a pointing to Christ (not a type). My point was that since the Ark is definitely NOT God, making it a type would be more in the direction of blasphemy, responding to your charge of same.

Mary is not God and carried God. The type here for Ark/Mary is more clear - and I believe, less blasphemous for the reason above.

[Elsie]

The Supreme Entity is my manager of smallish, wooly quadrupeds (or, alternatively, caprines.)

"Nay!", I say!

We caprines have GOATherds - NOT SHEPards!

(Think Sound of Music)

The Lonely Goatherd

[Elsie]

I hear ya, some protestants say believers have to handle snakes and drink poison to show their faith, not my belief, just sayin'.

Them 'some' people make it tough for EVERY religion; doncha think?

[Elsie]

Neither am I edified by the return at least every two months of this subject, this flogging.

And yet; so many ARE!

[Elsie]

And if THAT wasn’t enough...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjSjB-3xPVM

[RnMomof7]

I know.. sorrta like sticking a statue of her in a bath tub

[Mad Dawg]

You think that’s true in Hebrew? Real question.

[conservonator]

If it weren’t for some people, this would be a pretty boring forum ;)

[Mad Dawg]

They should come on Free Republic if they REALLY want to do penance.

[Mad Dawg]

You are the one who first used the term “flogging” for providing Scripture to defend a position.

Actually I used the term “flogging” as a reference to the old saying “to flog a dead horse” meaning to return to a topic which has already been discussed many many times with little resolution because I thought bringing up the intercession of the saints YET AGAIN was going to be a waste of time.

What seems obvious to one side seems artificial and sophistical to the other. One side thinks its arguments from Scripture are solid and persuasive while the other thinks they're a phony as a threedollar bill.

But if you want to go over it again, that's your affair.

(I would like to observe here that FR'sspell check offered "Euro dollar" for my original "three-dollar". Just sayin'.

One of the reasons, one of the things in the back of my alleged mind which led me to bring up the question of Pauline Mysticism was that I think that area of question might shed light on the differences about the meaning and, so to speak, the application of koinonia.

As a hint, we all are much in accord over what we are saved FROM. But we have very different ideas of what we are saved FOR and TO.

[smvoice]

LOL! Why woul...nevermind, just LOL!

[HossB86]

I don't get it, and I don't see a mark.

Well, MD, it was said with an eye to humor. Sorry about that.

Otherwise, it was said to state an agreement with MM's assessment of what I believe to be a faulty teaching of the RCC.

I found great joy in praising MM! :D

Hoss

[Mad Dawg]

It is always fun to praise the good. That’s why at least SOME worship is a group endeavor.

So I’m glad you found joy.