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To: Cronos
Chronos, both your posts were very well said and nailed the issue perfectly.

Thank you.

149 posted on 08/28/2011 5:00:45 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking...." (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
The concept of predestination troubles me. I do consider it as graver than any of the other points that separate various churches, because in my opinion it seems to suggest a sadistic god that creates pre-programmed robots, programs some to do evil, some to do good. The robots cannot go against their program, yet at the end of their existence this robot-maker god then puts those he pre-programmed to evil to an eternal torment.

Those of us who go to heck are there for our own fault, it was not God who pre-destined those to go to hell. He KNOWS, but he did not pre-destine them

However, on another note, the title is provocative to Calvinists, somehow suggesting that they will not be going to heaven (which the article does NOT say)

185 posted on 08/28/2011 11:51:05 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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