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For more realistic coverage, see the Arizona Republic article above (cannot be posted to FR) and Father Z's fisking of same article (which, based upon past experience, would also be yanked because of the extensive extract from the AZ Republic).

Anything that upsets the heretical and condemned National Catholic Fishwrap is a good thing in my book.

1 posted on 08/22/2011 7:47:55 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

What is your problem? Very snotty comments and uncalled for.


2 posted on 08/22/2011 7:49:57 AM PDT by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: markomalley; Rockiette
As a recovering feminist myself, still working through the Twelve-Step Program, I think I understand the points brought up by the folks who want all God's/Goddesses' Chillins to be not only equal, but identical and interchangeable function-units.

That's approx. what I was advocating, good Lord, 40 years ago, when Twiggy was a great runway model because she looked like a 14-year-old boy, and the word "unisex" was used to tout everything from salons to bicycle saddles, and the word "masculine" was seen as rude, prickly and sweaty, and word "feminine" virtually unspeakable except for diminishment and irony.

That was then.

Now I'm more appreciative of practical and symbolic differences. I like sex and despise gender. I find myself nowhere in the alphabetic sequence that starts out LGBT and ends up AIDS and STD.

And---where was I? --- oh yeah, I love the concept of "altar boys" holding patens and cruets, and girls (in the feminine bastion formerly known as the Altar Society) laying out the tablecloths, placing the flowers and lighting the candles.

Why?

Because -- get this --- only when there are real differences can there be real paradoxes.

And in a divine grand scheme-of-things where the first are last and the last are first, where the exalted are humbled and the humble exalted, where many a Pope from Anacletus to Zephryinus will be forgotten but the Little Flower, St. Therese, will never be forgotten --- I like paradoxes best of all.

3 posted on 08/22/2011 8:05:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (He whom the whole Universe cannot contain, enclosed Himself in your womb, O Mary, and was made man.)
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Parishes in our diocese that restrict altar serving to boys get a lot of interest and typically have as many as four for a single Mass. Those that allow girls to serve always have a shortage; there’s just no interest in it. The article’s comparison to serving as US President is absurd. There is nothing prohibiting a woman to be President (in fact, conservatives would like to see one this time around). Women may not be priests, however. Perhaps this is how liberal Catholics want to bring about that change?


4 posted on 08/22/2011 8:09:42 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: markomalley

The Vatican, in spite of the excesses of Vatican II, ruled against using girl altar boys a long time ago.

In Europe there are no lay readers either and nuns wear proper habits.

The U. S. franchise is apparently open-ended and without any stipulation on what local pastors and their bishops can do to make the Catholic church look ridiculous.


6 posted on 08/22/2011 8:17:41 AM PDT by IbJensen (God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made politicians.)
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To: markomalley

After reviewing the website and the ascinine articles posted I can see why you call it ‘Fishwrap!’


8 posted on 08/22/2011 8:25:10 AM PDT by IbJensen (God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made politicians.)
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What a unique story! A Catholic Priest upholding traditions that have been in place for centuries! Dog bites man! I wonder if this source runs an article each morning: "Sun Rises in East, Pictures at 11"

Alas, thanks to the times we live in, this is news.

Feminism and Christianity (both Catholic and Protestant) are fundamentally incompatible. Those who don't agree should go to one of the many quasi-christian or crypto-pagan churches that create womynpriests and celebrate homosex. The Lord knows there are plenty of them nowadays.

10 posted on 08/22/2011 8:35:03 AM PDT by jboot
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My sister’s parish discovered a painless way to remove altar girls. Very rigorous standards. And then, let the attrition occur. No one’s upset, because everyone left willing, but it’s just boys now.

Which is exactly how I want it, as a mother of girls and boys.


12 posted on 08/22/2011 8:36:26 AM PDT by mockingbyrd
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My sister’s parish discovered a painless way to remove altar girls. Very rigorous standards. And then, let the attrition occur. No one’s upset, because everyone left willing, but it’s just boys now.

Which is exactly how I want it, as a mother of girls and boys.


13 posted on 08/22/2011 8:36:35 AM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: markomalley; All

Everyone needs to read “Get Us Out of Here” by Maria Simma. In it she is told some of the things that make for unhappy souls.

And altar girls is on the list.

Acolytes only.


14 posted on 08/22/2011 8:55:18 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

The Rev. John Lankeit is a treasure.


16 posted on 08/22/2011 8:58:09 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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Boys who are uncomfortable around girls

Yeah ... I bet "Michael Sean Winters" is uncomfortable around girls.

Jus' sayin' ...

22 posted on 08/22/2011 9:06:33 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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So they used to have girls, but are reverting to all boys? I wonder how that’ll go over with the parents of girls who are currently serving.

One factual error - Arlington also had only boys as diocesan policy until a few years ago, when Bishop Loverde said it was up to the pastors. Our parish has girls, but at least they’re not in the same cassocks as the boys. I do wish they’d quit playing with their hair.


26 posted on 08/22/2011 9:59:23 AM PDT by nina0113
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Aww The Fishwrap is upset. Bonus.


28 posted on 08/22/2011 10:26:57 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: markomalley

once you start mixing with girls at that age, the boys see being an alter server is a “girly” thing and you end up with all girls.


32 posted on 08/23/2011 7:00:33 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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