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1 posted on 07/30/2011 3:22:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think we are denying him his lifestyle choice. I mean, we need to enact marriage equality. Without marriage equality, we can see this poor inter-generational polygamist family being split up by discrimination against their lifestyle. I mean, isn’t it time we recognize all lifestyle choices as equal? If you don’t, you’re worse than Hitler.

Yes, that was sarcasm.


2 posted on 07/30/2011 3:27:41 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: MizSterious

ping


3 posted on 07/30/2011 3:35:35 PM PDT by reaganaut ( "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The judge should have kicked his ass out of the courtroom for Contempt of Court.


4 posted on 07/30/2011 3:38:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That would be polygamy & pedophilia wouldn’t it?


5 posted on 07/30/2011 3:38:21 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

From the article: The mainstream Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also known as the Mormon church, repudiated polygamy more than a century ago. “

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If it gets legalized, they will bring it back, guaranteed.

They have never repudiated or removed the doctrine from their Scriptures and many still defend the doctrine, even though they say it is no longer practiced.

OTOH, I do know a couple of Mainstream Mormon families who do practice it, quietly.


6 posted on 07/30/2011 3:41:33 PM PDT by reaganaut ( "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you had to choose between the two, which is the least harmful arrangement for society?

1. Polygamy
2. Same sex marriages.

We have a society which has outlawed one and is beginning to leagalize the other.


9 posted on 07/30/2011 3:47:58 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just as Hitler used his trial for the Beer Hall Putsch to launch the Nazis campaign to take over Germany.


11 posted on 07/30/2011 3:53:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; reaganaut

Wish I could link a certain other news site that has the full text of the “sickness and death” proclamation. Or that someone else is posting transcripts. If anyone wonders just what this guy is about, they need to see that!


12 posted on 07/30/2011 3:56:58 PM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Living with 5 women is one thing. The guy can say he’s simply has an open marriage with one of them.

But molesting a 12 year old in the “Temple” while others watch should be punishable by death. They have an audio of Jeffs doing this and people can be heard talking. A former FLDS says this is common practice.

As for the mainstream LDS, the articles always point out that these people are fringe. I get a little sick of hearing it.


14 posted on 07/30/2011 4:52:42 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I will only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think this court will let Jeffs turn the trial into a sermon.

The judge said she let him go on this time because he hadn’t presented an opening statement. She also dismissed the jury from the room and later turned off Jeff’s microphone.

I really don’t this she is going to let him get away with much from here on.


15 posted on 07/30/2011 4:58:09 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Has Warren Jeffs turned his trial into a sermon on polygamy?

He's trying for the Insanity Plea Defense

27 posted on 07/30/2011 6:26:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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2400 Adultery, divorce, polygamy, and free union are grave offenses against the dignity of marriage.
2387 The predicament of a man who, desiring to convert to the Gospel, is obliged to repudiate one or more wives with whom he has shared years of conjugal life, is understandable. However polygamy is not in accord with the moral law." [Conjugal] communion is radically contradicted by polygamy; this, in fact, directly negates the plan of God which was revealed from the beginning, because it is contrary to the equal personal dignity of men and women who in matrimony give themselves with a love that is total and therefore unique and exclusive." The Christian who has previously lived in polygamy has a grave duty in justice to honor the obligations contracted in regard to his former wives and his children.
1664 Unity, indissolubility, and openness to fertility are essential to marriage. Polygamy is incompatible with the unity of marriage; divorce separates what God has joined together; the refusal of fertility turns married life away from its "supreme gift," the child (GS 50 § 1).
1610 Moral conscience concerning the unity and indissolubility of marriage developed under the pedagogy of the old law. In the Old Testament the polygamy of patriarchs and kings is not yet explicitly rejected. Nevertheless, the law given to Moses aims at protecting the wife from arbitrary domination by the husband, even though according to the Lord's words it still carries traces of man's "hardness of heart" which was the reason Moses permitted men to divorce their wives.
1645 "The unity of marriage, distinctly recognized by our Lord, is made clear in the equal personal dignity which must be accorded to man and wife in mutual and unreserved affection." Polygamy is contrary to conjugal love which is undivided and exclusive.
 

43 posted on 07/30/2011 9:06:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As the Oak Ridge Boys used to sing, trying to love two women is like a ball and chain, and as I like to say, trying to love any more than that is like wrapping yourself in anchor chain.


53 posted on 07/30/2011 10:15:27 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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