Christian marriage, based on the teachings of its founder, is monogamous. An evil man, Brigham Young, led the Mormon church into polygamy, based on a false "revelation" that he falsely claimed was through Joseph Smith, Jr., who condemned the practise through his own words and through the Book of Mormon he translated.
Despite secret temple marriage rites that are not a part of the fullness of the gospel taught in the Book of Mormon, Mormons now living have more of a reputation for happy monogamous marriages than those in many other denominations. One might see in that a fulfillment of Isaiah 1:18: "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord; though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool." Jesus taught, "If you love me, keep my commandmants", which include monogamous marriage that Jesus did not want to see easily abandoned.
Jesus taught: "Not every one that saith unto Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father Which is in heaven." There are evil Mormons, like Harry Reid, who are doing evil things to America. There are good Mormons, like Glenn Beck, who are doing good things for America (and for Israel).
I don't know what is motivating Harry Reid to do evil. But I do know what is motivating Glenn Beck to expose Spooky Dude and alert Americans concerning the evil designs of George Soros and his organizations. In the Book of Mormon, in the Book of Ether, is a divinely inspired warning concerning the rise of international secret combinations against freedom. I cannot read that passage without thinking of Glenn Beck, one of the few who are taking that passage seriously.
You are free to waste the days of your probation bad-mouthing "mormonism", but the coming of Christ is imminent when He will confront those who are supposed to be doing His work on Earth (Luke 12:35-48). I predict, based on the prophecies of Isaiah, that when Christ's church is cleansed and unified in His faith, many of those who are now Mormons will be greatly blessed and guided by the Holy Spirit to accomplish many great and marvelous works. You are wasting your time condemning them. Have you no fear concerning what is taught in Luke 12:35-48?
You appear to always drift back into focusing on works. Do you believe a murderer who stops his killing long enough to help an old lady accross the street, or stop a runaway baby carriage somehow cancels his sins to even a small degree?
You are free to waste the days of your probation bad-mouthing “mormonism”, but the coming of Christ is imminent when He will confront those who are supposed to be doing His work on Earth
_____________________________________________
Oh I doubt if the LORD Jesus Christ will be the least bit upset with me because I denounced the unGodly mormon practices of serial adultery for exaltation and pagan dead dunking of dead Christians..
What made you think He might ???
and as for “bad-mouthing” unBiblical heresies like mormonism, the LORD Jesus Chriust did a lot of that when He was here on Earth...
You yourself are free to continue to bash Christians..
Check my profile page - one can easily figure out my denomination from there.
Meanwhile, you single out one denomination that you can study just enough to attack, sloppily mixing its long-abandoned practises with current ones and using guilt by association as your weapon of choice.
Correction - single out a cult. Now with that said, such 'abandoned' practices were declared by the prophet to be eternal ordinances and other prophets declared that those same practices were to never be stopped. I guess that works for God until they come to arrest you - then you have another 'revelation'. Sum total of that history is to show false prophets leading simple minded people astray.
Are people condemned by God for being brought up in or otherwise joining a denomination that other denominations judge to be not Christian?
They can when they refuse to lay the doctrines of mormonism side by side with those of Christianity and see that their beliefs don't even exist in the same galaxy as Christianity.
Christian marriage, based on the teachings of its founder, is monogamous. An evil man, Brigham Young, led the Mormon church into polygamy, based on a false "revelation" that he falsely claimed was through Joseph Smith, Jr., who condemned the practise through his own words and through the Book of Mormon he translated.
BAaasswwwwwaaaahhahaha. Thanks John, I knew that would be something you would say. Facts are that smith was deep into polygamy and lead young into it. The evidence is overwhelming to those who are unafraid to review it.
Mormons now living have more of a reputation for happy monogamous marriages than those in many other denominations.
PR more than fact John.
You are free to waste the days of your probation bad-mouthing "mormonism", but the coming of Christ is imminent when He will confront those who are supposed to be doing His work on Earth (Luke 12:35-48).
As long a mormon doctrine refers to Christianity as the whore of babylon, and mormon missionaries the same, I will occupy my time challenging those doctrines.
Have you no fear concerning what is taught in Luke 12:35-48?
No, because I am a new creation in Christ. And I choose to follow the Apostles Paul, Peter and Jude in contending for the faith and identifying false prophets and teachers who would pretend to be Christian in order to lead those away to damnation. You should fear MT 7:23.
You hide your denominations because you don’t want to be linked to anything that might be criticized.
_________________________________________________
John admitting to your own membership in the RLDS “denomination” of the religion of Mormonism doesnt unlink to you Joey Smith and his blasphemous religion and its heresies...
Did you think somehow it would prevent the anti-Christian doctrines and tenets of your cult of choice from being exposed and criticised ???
Joey Smith had at least 40 adulterous relationships including 11 married women and 14 year old children starting about 1831. Joey Smith was the one who wrote D&C 132, a teachiong of "the founder"
An evil man, Brigham Young, led the Mormon church into polygamy, based on a false "revelation"
Oh it was a false revelation alright. Joey Smith made it up to cover his tracks and hinder his poor wife Emma Hale from stopping his cheating. He even threatened her life.
BTW Have you ever considered that Joey Smith was just a man with a mans temptations ???
But unlike a decent man Joey Smith entertained those appetites of lust and greed...
Joey Smith restored ancient barbarism but Briggy Young perfected it.
Despite secret temple marriage rites that are not a part of the fullness of the gospel taught in the Book of Mormon, Mormons now living have more of a reputation for happy monogamous marriages than those in many other denominations.
___________________________________________________
Actually NO
the divorce rate for Mormons is about the same as any other group...
In part granted because there is one different reason
Most mormon marriages start out as an arranged forced affair between an emotionally immature too young couple and not a voluntry agreement between just the 2 people concerned...
In the culture of the West in the 21st Century, arranged marriages among young people in their teens and early twenties sour through indifference and the lack of comradary and after a time of growing up and reflection...
The urged and hurried marriages dont stand a chance as the participants do not have a long enough time to get to know themselves or their partners before hand...
What might have “endured” during the enclosed 19th century, will not in the more free 21st.
and so there are divorces among the mormons ..
and its a travesty which could have been avoided...
Christian marriage, based on the teachings of its founder, is monogamous.
______________________________________________
Mormon marriage, based on the teachings of its founder, is polygamous.
“I have identified thirty-three well-documented wives of Joseph Smith, which some may regard as an overly conservative numbering... Historians Fawn Brodie, D. Michael Quinn, and George D. Smith list forty-eight, forty-six, and forty-three, respectfully. Yet in problematic areas it may be advisable to err on the side of caution.” (Todd Compton, In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith, p.1)
Joseph Smith “proposed to at least five more women who turned him down.” (Compton)
Mr. W.: “Joseph kept eight girls in his house, calling them his ‘daughters.’ Emma threatened that she would leave the house, and Joseph told her, “All right, you can go.” She went, but when Joseph reflected that such a scandal would hurt his prophetic dignity, he followed his wife and brought her back. But the eight ‘daughters’ had to leave the house (Dr. W. Wyl, Mormon Portraits)
Miss” Eliza R. Snow, ... was one of the first (willing) victims of Joseph in Nauvoo. She used to be much at the prophet’s house he made her one of his celestial brides... . Feeling outraged as a wife and betrayed as a friend, Emma is currently reported as having had recourse to a vulgar broomstick as an instrument of revenge: and the harsh treatment received at Emma’s hands is said to have destroyed Eliza’s hopes of becoming the mother of a prophet’s son (Dr. W. Wyl, Mormon Portraits, 1886, pp.57-58).
The Mormon writer Claire Noall acknowledged: “Willard realized that Emma had refused to believe that any of the young women boarding at the Mansion when it was first used as a hotel had been married to Joseph. She had struck Eliza Snow at the head of the stairs, and Eliza, it was whispered, had lost her unborn child” (Intimate Disciple, a Portrait of Willard Richards, 1957, p.407).
What would a man of God say, who felt aright, when Joseph asked him for his money? He would say, “Yes, and I wish I had more to help to build up the kingdom of God.” Or if he came and said, “I want your wife?” “O Yes,” he would say, “here she is, there are plenty more.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, Feb. 19, 1854, pp.13-14)
Lorenzo Snow, who became president of the church in 1898, strongly argued that the church would never cease plural marriage.(Deseret News and Journal of Discourses.)
In his book Mormon Portraits (pp.70-72), Dr. Wyl presents some revealing information:
Joseph Smith finally demanded the wives of all the twelve Apostles that were at home then in Nauvoo.... Vilate Kimball, the first wife of Heber C. Kimball, ... loved her husband, and he, ... loved her, hence a reluctance to comply with the Lord’s demand that Vilate should be consecrated.... They thought the command of the Lord must be obeyed in some way, and a “proxy” way suggested itself to their minds. They had a young daughter only getting out of girlhood; and the father apologizing to the prophet for his wife’s reluctance to comply with his desires, stating, however, that the act must be right or it would not be counselled ... asked Joe if his daughter wouldn’t do as well as his wife. Joe replied that she would do just as well, and the Lord would accept her instead. The half-ripe bud of womanhood was delivered over to the Prophet.
The fact that Joseph Smith asked for Heber C. Kimball’s wife but actually married his daughter is verified in the book The Life of Heber C. Kimball, written by Apostle Orson F. Whitney:
Before he would trust even Heber with the full secret, however, he put him to a test which few men would have been able to bear.
It was no less than a requirement for him to surrender his wife, his beloved Vilate, and give her to Joseph in marriage!
The astounding revelation well-nigh paraly[z]ed him. He could hardly believe he had heard aright. Yet Joseph was solemnly in earnest.... He knew Joseph too well ... to doubt his truth or the divine origin of the behest he had made....
Three days he fasted and wept and prayed. Then, with a broken and a bleeding heart, but with soul self-mastered for the sacrifice, he led his darling wife to the Prophet’s house and presented her to Joseph.
It was enough—the heavens accepted the sacrifice. The will for the deed was taken, and ‘accounted unto him for righteousness.’ Joseph wept at this proof of devotion, and embracing Heber told him that was all the Lord required....
The Prophet joined the hands of the heroic and devoted pair, and then and there, ... Heber and Vilate Kimball were made husband and wife for all eternity (Life of Heber C. Kimball, pp.333-35).
Helen Mar, the eldest daughter of Heber Chase and Vilate Kimball, was given to the Prophet in the holy bonds of Celestial Marriage (p.339).
“That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another. “God said, ‘Thou shalt not kill;; at another time He said ‘Thou shalt utterly destroy.’ This is the principle on which the government of heaven is conducted—by revelation adapted to the circumstances in which the children of the kingdom are placed. Whatever God requires is right, no matter what it is, although we may not see the reason thereof till long after the events transpire.” (Joseph Smith, letter to Nancy Rigdon, 11 April 1842)
Christian marriage, based on the teachings of its founder, is monogamous. An evil man, Brigham Young, ______________________________________________
said that Christian marriage was “prostitution” because it was monogamous
“fruitful source of prostitution and whoredom throughout all the Christian monogamic cities of the Old and New World...” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 11, p. 128).
and not polygamous like the marriages of the Mormons...
Ha ha HA!
You don't get kit; do you?
We HIDE nothing.
What YOU want to do is to get us OFF subject, chasing down a rabbit hole, defending something or other that you think you've have found debatable.
Hear me now: WE DO NOT PLAY DEFENSE!
Now; get thee behind me.
John, it seems to me that I recall that you're ex- CoC...but still at heart a restorationist.
Since you're accusing others of "hiding" their denominations, care to share what sect you're part of now? Or are you just part of the denomination of self? If you don't care to share, is it pot meets kettle?
As for me, John, I'm an Evangelical.
The cousin of one of your RLDS "prophets" (Joseph Smith's kid) -- Joseph Smith's nephew, revealed in 1878: "To put this matter more correctly before you I here declare that the principle of plural marriage was not first revealed on the 12th day of July, 1843. It was written for the first time on that date, but it had been revealed to the Prophet many years before that, perhaps as early as 1832." (Joseph F. Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 20, p. 29)
I mean, what, John? Do you always go around besmearing the extended family of Joseph Smith, Jr. and his son as open liars? Is this an open hobby of you & other Missouri-based restorationists?