Hebrew caracters with no vowel markings are indeed compact. However, once you start adding tittles and other minute markings, you've got a major problem for engraving on metal plates. Also Hebrew characters are written in a variety of stroke widths, another major problem.
You do not seem to catch the significance of "reformed" Egyptian. While you are correct that ancient Egyptian writing is not simple, Chinese caractors are also complex, and a modernized and simplified form of Chinese caractors does exist. One could even call that simplified Chinese "reformed".
The Book of Mormon plainly states that no other people can read their reformed Egyptian caractors, which means that Book of Mormon authors and scribes invented reformed Egyptian specifically for their recording on plates. They would obviously create a caractor set that would not, as in Hebrew, have various widths of stroke nor a system of tittles and other time-consuming minute markings.
I only wish that the 8 witnesses had been a little more specific in describing the reformed Egyptian that they looked at: "and as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated, we did handle with our hands: and we also saw the engravings thereon, all of which has the appearance of ancient work, and of curious workmanship".
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Hebrew caracters with no vowel markings are indeed compact. However, once you start adding tittles and other minute markings, you’ve got a major problem for engraving on metal plates. Also Hebrew characters are written in a variety of stroke widths, another major problem.
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John, the vowel markings in Hebrew were created in the early middle ages and therefore would not have been an issue for the Book of Mormon ‘authors’. Again no need for ‘reformed egyptian’ or issue for metal plate engraving. The DSS which are late 2nd temple (and much later than the proposed BoM timeline) does not even have vowel marks.
Secondly, the wide strokes are not part of ancient Hebrew, again another medieval construction.
Your comments are not only incorrect, but show a lack of knowledge of very basic orthography.
And what is the point in writing in a language no one could understand?
They would obviously create a caractor set that would not, as in Hebrew, have various widths of stroke nor a system of tittles and other time-consuming minute markings.
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The Hebrew of the day (and even after the supposed end of the BoM timeline) had no such markings.
I only wish that the 8 witnesses had been a little more specific in describing the reformed Egyptian that they looked at: “and as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated, we did handle with our hands: and we also saw the engravings thereon, all of which has the appearance of ancient work, and of curious workmanship”.
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John
Joey Smith “copied” the so called engravings onto paper..
That statement doers not say they sa the engravings ON THE PLATES
It mere says they saw “saw the engravings thereon”
I also have “saw the engravings thereon”,and Reaganaut and the others also..
Elsie has often posted the pictures of “the engravings thereon” as she did in this thread..
Joey Smith doodled and claimed that he had copied the doodlings from the plates
Have you ever noticed the beetle like “caractor” ? TWO tiny dots for eyes Seems that the reformed Egyptians had little problem with “tittles and other minute markings” after all..
“all of which has the appearance of ancient work”
To the eyes of the ignorant and unlearned men, that “caractors” looked like something from another time, plus Joey Smith gave them that suggestion when he said the plates were written more than a 1000 years before...,
“of curious workmanship”.
Yes Joey Smith had invented and worked himself a “curious” lot of “caractors”
The 8 men had their own reasons for wanting to believe Joey Smith ...they idolized him...he was the big man on campus...the one who could get all the girls
or they were in on the scam...after all they were family and they had a stake in the book selling and topping the New York Times Best Sellers List..
(Eventhough Joey had “prophecied” it would sell in Canada and it didnt...
Today they still cant sell it...they have to give it away...
The Christian Bible OTOH is still the best selling book...)
“we also saw the engravings thereon”
Yes we all have..right here again in this thread...
“I only wish that the 8 witnesses had been a little more specific in describing the reformed Egyptian that they looked at:”
Why ??? You can see it for yourself...right here in the thread...Post #336
While you are correct that ancient Egyptian writing is not simple, Chinese caractors are also complex, and a modernized and simplified form of Chinese caractors does exist. One could even call that simplified Chinese “reformed”.
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John, in Egyptian, the ‘reformed’ or simplified charaters are demotic or hiratic and both are known. There is no such thing as ‘reformed’ Egyptian.
Again, you seem to fail Orthography 101.
Question, how many languages (other than English) are you fluent in? How many of the so-called ‘dead’ languages? The reason I ask is you are making mistakes that anyone with any proficiency in an ancient language wouldn’t make.
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