Elsie applied this to the present Mormon church. Since the Mormon church no longer practises blood atonement and polygamy, it is not continuing to do as their fathers did. Therefore, the application is false.
The application is true, however, concerning baptism for the dead, which is not mentioned in the fullness of the gospel. Here, the Mormon church, even if it came to realize that baptism for the dead is a false doctrine, could not discard it without offending its membership. The RLDS was correct to reject Joseph Smith Jr's "revelations" on baptism for the dead, because Community of Christ believes in the principle of common consent. The president of the church, past or present, cannot force on her anything claiming to be of divine origin. The church, must, through delegates to a general conference, either accept or reject communications claiming divine origin, and without such acceptance, they cannot have scriptural authority for the church. The documents on baptism for the dead, as first presented, were never given approval by a general conference of the church.
You got the speck and missed the mote.
I am at a disadvantage on knowing which SLC doctrines the RLDS folks do not accept.
Likewise; I am at a disadvantage on knowing which SLC PRACTICES the RLDS folks do not participate in.
Setting the minutia aside, the very basis for ALL of the MORMONic sects is faulty, so just exactly how many angels are dancing on which heretical point is moot to me.
The application is true, however, concerning baptism for the dead, which is not mentioned in the fullness of the gospel.
Perhaps you, John, can show us just where, in the BoM, this so called FULLNESS is found.
NONE of the SLC MORMONs on FR have been able to do it.
Religion by commitee.
Who needs it?
Do they ALL put their faces into a hat to discern the TRUENESS or 'revelation'?
The SLC mormon church has latched onto every possible method of making money from tithing from members...from baptism for the dead to not allowing "unworthies" to attend family weddings to coercing members to scrub toilets in the name of "service"...I imagine that already the savings from firing paid janitors has shown up in the claims of mormon benevolence to the needy.
The application is true, however, concerning baptism for the dead, which is not mentioned in the fullness of the gospel. Here, the Mormon church, even if it came to realize that baptism for the dead is a false doctrine, could not discard it without offending its membership.
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How about offending the non-members who are members of other religions, say Christianity ???
The Mormons sont seem worried about that little inconvenience...
The following answers on dead dunking Catholics around the world are from the Poland forum of a geneological website ...
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The Vatican objects to the Mormons practice of using the information from the records to do posthumous rebaptisms.
A January 29, 2008 letter from the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith expressed “grave reservations”.
The April 5, 2008 letter was from the Vatican Congregation for Clergy. Both are legitimate groups with in the Catholic Church. Jewish leaders also consider this practice to be disrespectful to the dead.
In 2001, the Catholic Church published a document stating that it does not consider any baptisms by Latter-day Saints to be valid.
http://genforum.genealogy.com/poland/messages/45444.html
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Gilberto,
Here is the official stance on the LDS records. Hopefully
will answer your questions:
Vatican Orders Records Withheld from Mormons
The Catholic News Service has published an article about new Vatican orders to not cooperate with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the microfilming of records. The Vatican wishes to block posthumous rebaptisms by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a practice that Catholics, Jews, and some others find objectionable.
Catholic dioceses throughout the world have been directed by the Vatican not to give information in parish registers to the Mormons’ Genealogical Society of Utah.
An April 5 letter from the Vatican Congregation for Clergy, obtained by Catholic News Service in late April, asks episcopal conferences to direct all bishops to keep the Latter-day Saints from microfilming and digitizing information contained in those registers.
The order came in light of “grave reservations” expressed in a January 29 letter from the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the clergy congregation’s letter said.
You can read more at
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802443.htm.
http://genforum.genealogy.com/poland/messages/45423.html
Elsie applied this to the present Mormon church. Since the Mormon church no longer practises blood atonement and polygamy, it is not continuing to do as their fathers did. Therefore, the application is false.
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No it isn’t, they (and CoC) still follow their idols, their false Christs.
Elsie applied this to the present Mormon church. Since the Mormon church no longer practises blood atonement and polygamy, it is not continuing to do as their fathers did. Therefore, the application is false.
HMMMmmm...
I had NO idea these --> blood atonement and polygamy <-- were idols of the LDS religious organization.
Thanks for the info.
BTW; I’ve not seen you on FR for a couple of years.
Still on this side of the sod?