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To: Colofornian
...but you are now claiming that Gentile Christians have a shepherd other than Jesus because He wasn't sent to us, eh?

Classic misrepresentation. I made no such claim. I was merely stating what is obvious from the New Testament itself. The Acts of the Apostles is the record of a major shift in missionary outreach from the descendents of Israel (to whom Jesus Himself ministered) to the Gentiles (to whom the disciples of Jesus eventually ministered). When Gentiles become Christians, obviously Christ becomes their shepherd as well. Duh!

In Matthew 15:24 we have Jesus teaching: "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." So I was true to the New Testament when I interpreted the "other sheep" of John 10:16 as predicting a future appearance to decendants of the house of Israel. The Book of Mormon records less than a hundredth part of His Mesoamerican ministry, but those passages contain some unfragmented glimpses of a ministry that even in words only are stunningly beautiful. Thank you, Jesus, for allowing us to have an account of what some of that was like. May we soon become worthy to receive the remainder of the records of Your Mesoamerican ministry!

179 posted on 07/27/2011 4:50:30 PM PDT by John McDonnell
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To: John McDonnell
In Matthew 15:24 we have Jesus teaching: "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." So I was true to the New Testament when I interpreted the "other sheep" of John 10:16 as predicting a future appearance to decendants of the house of Israel. The Book of Mormon records less than a hundredth part of His Mesoamerican ministry, but those passages contain some unfragmented glimpses of a ministry that even in words only are stunningly beautiful. Thank you, Jesus, for allowing us to have an account of what some of that was like. May we soon become worthy to receive the remainder of the records of Your Mesoamerican ministry!

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180 posted on 07/27/2011 5:33:32 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (My God can't be bribed by money or good works or bound by manmade "covenants". Romney's can.)
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To: John McDonnell

“In Matthew 15:24 we have Jesus teaching: “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” So I was true to the New Testament when I interpreted the “other sheep” of John 10:16 as predicting a future appearance to decendants of the house of Israel.”

Actually, you were wrong on the New Testament when you identified “lost sheep” as lost tribes.
You were correct, however, on representing the heresy of mormonism.

That would be, what, half a gold star?


182 posted on 07/27/2011 6:11:15 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (This message carfully checkd to misteakes by powerful softwhere)
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To: John McDonnell
I was merely stating what is obvious from the New Testament itself.


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1 Timothy 3:2-3
2. Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
3. not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
1 Timothy 3:12
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
Titus 1:6
An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.




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THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.

184 posted on 07/27/2011 7:05:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: John McDonnell; Colofornian
The Book of Mormon records less than a hundredth part of His Mesoamerican ministry, but those passages contain some unfragmented glimpses of a ministry that even in words only are stunningly beautiful.

Has your 'prophet' officially made mesoamerica doctrine - or is that just your opinion. Many of your mormon brothers name many other places instead of mesoamerica John.

Either case has no support what so ever. Please, show us the mayan writings that mention a metallurgically advanced peoples in the millions upon millions, conducting massive genocidal wars. Please show us the metal swords, chariots, elephants, horses, smelters, etc that document their presence. Where is the DNA support John?

No John, Jesus was not talking about mesoamerica, not in the slightest.

191 posted on 07/27/2011 7:30:13 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: John McDonnell

satan lied to Eve - you to can be god
satan lied to Joseph Smith - you to can be god
Joseph Smith lied to everyone - you to can be god
Joseph Smith is a liar


192 posted on 07/27/2011 7:59:54 PM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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