[Polybius]

No, kiddo you said in 2011 the battle is between those who respect religion and those who want to destroy all religious values. The 1500s have nothing to do with this. I am not sure that you get it's 2011 and not 1500.

This is what I wrote:

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Back in the 1600's, the battle used to be between Our Religion vs. The Other Guy's Religion.

In 2011, the battle is between those who respect religion and those who want to destroy all religious values.

12 posted on Friday, July 08, 2011 12:36:16 PM by Polybius

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Is English your fourth language?

Do you have the slightest clue that my point is that religious bigotry belongs in the past centuries and not in 21st Century America?

Do you have the slightest clue that my point is that religious people should be worried about the secularist that attack all religions and should not be looking for unnecessary fights with other religious people?

[Colofornian]

Do you have the slightest clue that my point is that religious people should be worried about the secularist that attack all religions and should not be looking for unnecessary fights with other religious people? [polybius]

Wow! (And hear I was under the mistaken notion as a Christian that we were to take our cultural cues from a certain "Lord" named Jesus Christ? And now Polybius comes along & imposes something in direct contradiction!)

Boy. Tough choice: Who are we to follow when it comes to setting cultural priorities? Jesus and the apostle Paul? or Polybius?

Here's Jesus:

"I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." (Luke 12:4-5)

So does Jesus say, "worry about the secularists that can attack all religions?" (No)
Does Jesus say -- as other FR posters have hinted -- that we are to "fear the enemies of our freedom loving republic within our borders?" (No)
Or as many other FR posters usually point out, does Jesus say to fear the jihadists (Again, No)
Instead, does He say to exercise fear of the One who has authority to cast somebody into hell? (Yes)
So, indeed, our "fear" is on behalf of those who are placing their eternal spiritual lives at risk.

The way apparently some would have it, is to call for some "kumbayah" peace treaty & unite all religions vs. the secularists.

But you know, I could probably guess that the folks who the apostle Paul warned the church @ Ephesus about had the bulk in common with the sheep there. Both groups were "religious." So, did Paul play the "allies"-game-don't-divide-us-some posters play? (No)

As Paul was leaving the church of Ephesus, he warned them with this high-priority alert:

"I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears." (Acts 20:29-31)

Paul's cultural priority? (Defend against the false disciples who will proselytize the flock and draw away men unto themselves!)

Tell me something, Polybius: If you did something tearfully night and day for three years, do you think it's rather important? So what? We're just to conclude, "Oh, the man who contributed a good chunk to the New Testament -- what does he know about cultural priorities?"

[Oh, & btw...SOME conservatives are able to multi-task & address both secularists as well as cultists...I thank God some of the posters we've seen who can only oppose one-directionally weren't part of our military leadership during WWII...they would have never known how to address both Japan & Germany simultaneously on multiple frontlines!]

[Tennessee Nana]

Do you have the slightest clue that my point is that religious bigotry belongs in the past centuries and not in 21st Century America?
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

It appears the Moslems are clueless...

[Elsie]

Do you have the slightest clue that my point is that religious bigotry belongs in the past centuries and not in 21st Century America?

I guess we are stumbling over the definition of BIGOTRY.

[Elsie]

Do you have the slightest clue that my point is that religious people should be worried about the secularist that attack all religions and should not be looking for unnecessary fights with other religious people?

I guess we are stumbling over the definition of unnecessary.

[svcw]

The only bigotry I see on FR is yours.

[svcw]

Ok.
Just to give you a history lesson. When people groups started coming to the New World they came for economic freedom. Was there religious persecution, oh yea. Why? This persecution is not as simple as I don't like your religion. It was however an excuse. Christians were a small part of the European population but owned most of the property and wealth. Why? Because the Bible encourages people to be self sufficient and practice enterprise.
By the time the Founders arrived, they had formed in their collective minds (collectively and separately) a country that would allow religious freedom AND economic freedom regardless of religious beliefs.
Again that was then this is now.
Stop living in the past, get a grip on what is happening now, and stop your anti-Christian rants.