Look. I’m going to be respectful and not get into what the Temple Ceremony (Endowment) demands of your allegiance because I realize that it is sacred to you. Even if I don’t believe, I respect your beliefs even though you are tossing around conclusory statements that would, typically, demand an examination of those beliefs. And it would cause us to engage in the specifics of the various aspects of the Temple Ceremony. As I say ... I will not do that out of respect.
But your comparison to me as a follower of Herod and, essentially, Mitt Romney as a latter-day Jesus Christ is utterly bizarre and misses the mark. And it only further solidifies my belief that I would vote for Roger Rabbit before I would vote for Mitt Romney
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Geez I wonder how some folks get out of bed in the morning
How did we get to Romney he is not all of the LDS
there are are many of us whom you are assuming have some kind of an allegiance to over throw the US
If you knew anything about the LDS and how they feel about this constitution that stupid kind of remark would not have been made.
The LDS believe this whole nation is divine providence it was the Lord who is the author of our constitution and our founding Father was able to receive inspiration.
My comparison to King Herod was he also had some crazy idea that the Lord kingdom was a worldly one!
Believe what you want the about the LDS
Those who can not be cordial towards another Christian faith or others religions show just what kind of Christian they really are and what little love they have towards their fellow man...
I was VERY VERY cordial. I didn’t attack “Mormonism” nor will I here. I respect your right to worship how you may.
My only point, and I stand by it 100%, is that the first obligation as promised in the Temple is to God and the Church and NOT to the united States. I just do not, and will not, talk about Temple specifics as I want to be respectful. Do not mistake my lack of specifics for lack of knowledge.
But putting Romney’s RINO record aside (which is HUGE), as a Mormon President his first allegiance will be to the Mormon Church. Of course that problem will rarely raise it’s head. But you can rest assured when push comes to shove, and Pres. Monson dictates what he wants, Romney will do it ... no questions asked. For a Mormon to Question the Prophet is to engage in heresy and to risk eternal salvation. That is an influence on our POTUS that I can not abide. I (and many of us) will vote Third Party if Romney somehow backs into the nomination.
The LDS believe this whole nation is divine providence it was the Lord who is the author of our constitution and our founding Father was able to receive inspiration.
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How could that possibly be since they were all apostates and didn’t have the LDS priesthood?
And Resty, I can document anti-US oaths in the LDS temple clear up until 1927.
And the LDS are not Christians so don’t cry we aren’t cordial. Besides RIghtwardHo’s comments were VERY cordial, unlike yours.
Get OFF of Resty's computer and let her type for herself!
Get OFF of Resty's computer and let her type for herself!
I think you may be onto something!!!
Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (, p.270).Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (, p. 119).Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" ( 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" ( 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" ( 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" ( 10:230).Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (, p. 255).Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (, 18:172).President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (, 10:127).James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (, p.182).President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (, vol. 3, p.282).More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (, p.316).President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (, vol. 2, p.196).