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Posted on 07/08/2011 9:15:31 AM PDT by delacoert
Are you of the opinion that a Mormon should never be elected President?
Yes, it is my opinion that an indoctrinated Mormon should never be elected as President of the United States of America. Indoctrinated temple Mormons (as Romney is) have experienced years of brainwashing and indoctrination and also have made covenants and oaths that they plainly cannot disobey.
Mitt Romney and all temple Mormons have sworn to obey The Law of Consecrationin the secret temple ceremonies which states "You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at the altar, the you do accept the Law of Consecration as contained in The Doctrine and Covenants (a Mormon book), in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, an everything with which the Lord has bless you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormon Church), for the building up of the Kingdom of God on earth and for the establishment of Zion."
Ex-Mormon Ed Decker reveals the penalty for disobedience that was made by Mitt Romney (and all temple Mormons) at the time he took out his temple endowments: The "execution of the penalty" for disobedience was demonstrated "by placing the thumb under the left ear, the palm of the hand down, and by drawing the thumb quickly across the throat to the right ear, and dropping the hand to the side."
(Excerpt) Read more at inthearena.blogs.cnn.com ...
“Well we have a Muslim in the Whitehouse so how much worse could a Mormon be?”
What is ironic questions that lead to doom, Alex?
Excellent point. "God ---- America! It's a the Jews, the wealthy, and Whiteys fault!"
I’m not that familiar with such Mormon “rites”, if that is even the right word.
Did/do they exist? Would Romney have taken them?
Same here. His policies and past record indicate that he’s not a suitable candidate for the allegedly, somewhat Conservative party, the Republicans.
He might make a good Democrat, though.
It’s no surprise that the Muslims come to the defense of Mormons, since the two “religions” are very similar - both deriving from Old Testament-based hallucinations of their “prophets” who had an overlay of Christianity and paganism (which in the case of Joseph Smith, was 19th century spiritualism and belief in magic).
Both of them are theocracies and the only reason Mormonism had to tone itself down was because of the US Army and the fact that Utah wanted to be a state.
Since then, Mormonism has been attempting to portray itself as a regular Evangelical-type Protestant Christianity - but it’s not, and the nutty beliefs and the theocracy are still there.
Will there be a dueling prophets battle in the future?
Personally, I think they’ll come to an accord. The Mormons will probably give preeminence to Mohammed as their prophet, and then they and some of the stranger Evangelicals (like Rick Warren) will become part of the Chrislam movement.
concerned about politics: I have a Mormon friend. He believes in the Trinity. Take about stereotyping and rumor. Sheesh.
It appears either your friend or yourself is woefully ignorant about what the "Trinity" is.
If you go to LDS.org and search for "Trinity" the result will be "see godhead". Mormons don't even use the name "Trinity".
Here is all the explanation that a regional representative and administrative assistant to the Council of the Twelve thinks you need about mormonism and the "Trinity".
Quote: "On the basis of knowledge prompted by the Holy Ghost, we can know that the nature of God the Father, his Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost, as taught by the Bible and as revealed to the Prophet Joseph Smith, is true. Those who have received their understanding about God from errant traditional Christianity need no longer struggle with that confused and confusing doctrine."
The Prophet’s inspired declarations about the Godhead are in total agreement with the biblical evidence that Jesus and the Father have distinct, material bodies.
From LDS.org..Is the LDS View of God Consistent with the Bible?
Interesting. I can't wait to hear what they have to say when they start in on what's his name over in the House. I guess he'll be siding with the Pope on abortion and as such unfit to be in the House.
If he’s a Mormon, he doesn’t believe in the Trinity. Mormons are, like Muslims, an offshoot of Arianism, which essentially regarded Jesus as a particularly good man and a prophet, possibly even adopted in a special way, but not as the Son of God.
Some of their other beliefs are too bizarre to even go into here.
However, I know from having met them that there are some Mormons who want to be orthodox Christians, and I suspect your friend is one of them. Because of the very all-encompassing nature of the religion, however, they really can’t leave and hence they attempt to assert that their own beliefs are truly Mormon. They aren’t.
Like a broken record, isn’t it?
They don’t get it. It ain’t the Mormonism. It’s the liberalism, stupid.
(Watch. Some moron will interpret that as supporting some particular liberal Mormon guy - as if!)
“They don’t get it. It ain’t the Mormonism. It’s the liberalism, stupid.”
Some don’t get that it’s both, stupid.
For further information on Mormonism, read Walter Martin’s
“The ingdom of the Cults”.
There are many similarities between Mormonism and Islam.
MormonISM absolutely rejects the Trinity! Sounds like your “friend” isn’t even aware of what mormonism teaches. They believe in polytheism, not the Triune God of the Bible. If your friend denies this, he/she is either being deceitful or is not aware of what mormonism teaches.
Rumor nothing...it’s called being familiar with their actual teachings from their own sacred books. Mormons can claim they believe whatever they want, but their official church documents often contradict what mormons claim to believe. They have undergone a recent PR campaign to try to convince people they are just another Christian church, when really they teach very un-Christian things.
Why are you making this an either or choice? Who said anything about voting for someone who wants us all beheaded? Obviously, no conservative would ever vote for someone like that. This is Primary season - Republicans and conservatives need to carefully decide who the nominee will be. I think it’s totally appropriate to consider everything about a potential nominee, including their religious beliefs, because it goes to the core of the values and their thought process.
It isnt anti-Mormon....it is anti-Mormon President.
Mormonism is fine in our pluralistic society. But I for one dont want a President, who is striving for godhood, planning on making a new Jerusalem in Missouri.
"Joseph Smith received revelation in July of 1831 that the New Jerusalem and a temple would be built in Independence, Missouri and that the gathering of Israel would begin (Doctrine and Covenants 57:1-3). Since the term Zion also refers to the "pure in heart," when Christ comes again there could be many places in the world that would be referred to as Zion, because the people have accepted the gospel and follow the commandments, but the New Jerusalem is to be a “center place” or capital city for the pure in heart. "
And of course the White Horse Prophecy that looks like what Glen Beck, Mittwitt and Hunstman are striving for.
White Horse prophecy
From MormonWiki.org
The Saints Will Yet Save the Constitution-When the day comes in which the Kingdom of God will bear rule, the flag of the United States will proudly flutter unsullied on the flagstaff of liberty and equal rights, without a spot to sully its fair surface; the glorious flag our fathers have bequeathed to us will then be unfurled to the breeze by those who have power to hoist it aloft and defend its sanctity. (JOD 2:317).
How long will it be before the words of the prophet Joseph will be fulfilled? He said if the Constitution of the United States were saved at all it must be done by this people. It will not be many years before these words come to pass. 12:204.
When the Constitution of the United States hangs, as it were, upon a single thread, they will have to call for the "Mormon" Elders to save it from utter destruction; and they will step forth and do it. 2:182. (Brigham Young, Discourses of Brigham Young, selected and arranged by John A. Widtsoe, p.360, 361)
Do I want a Mormon President trying to fulfill Mormon Prophecy? NO WAY!
His faith aside, I would never vore for “Malibu Ken”.
LOL! i needed that. Too, too funny!
This thread is about whether or not it’s appropriate to consider a candidate’s religious beliefs. We all know that Romney is a liberal that will never receive the support of conservatives regardless of his beliefs. However, if we stay on topic and don’t focus on Romney in particular, I think the topic of what impact mormonism would have on a presidential candidate is worthy of discussion.
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