Posted on 06/21/2011 3:51:29 PM PDT by NoGrayZone
Okay, here's the deal in a long story short. I was raised Lutheran, moved out to Long Island and continued to be raised in St. Paul's Lutheran Church.
Aunt Jeannie (my name sake) has been a member since. I decided years ago I wanted back, so I went.
I did not feel Him there, thought it was me. I kept looking around the congregation, thinking it was me. After a while, I realized it wasn't (a couple of things happened after that confirmed it wasn't me).
Anywho, the icing on the cake was my Aunt Jeannie stopped going as well. After almost 30 years she felt the change as well. I looked up our church and saw they were apart of the "accept homosexuals as Pastors" crowd. That was 1 of the things that confirmed it was not me.
But my Aunt Jeannie leaving was the icing on the cake.
Here's our delima. Both of us are July babies. She is the 2nd, I am the 18th. We decided on 7/17 we would find a church to attend (we both want one to belong to and believe in), then go have brunch to discuss.
She is much more open minded than I am, but I promised her I would be open minded, if just for an hour, on that day.
I said to her, during our conversation "how do we know if the "Pastor" is a homo or not. She believes He is with us no matter where we are. I agree....to a point. I don't believe a homosexual can be one of His Shepard's leading His herd if that is so.
There have been so many "demoninations" coming out for homosexual "Shepard's" I have NO idea where to begin.
I have called a few churches and left messages for the Pastor to call back so I can interview Him (no lady Pastors for me).
Any advise to where we can look? Anyone know anything about Presbyterians?
Let’s be clear here. You understand the norms for receiving the Sacrament in the Catholic Church and, nevertheless, choose to ignore it and do as you please.
At best, that was very rude. At worst...well, I am no authority on the consequences of sacrilege. But, I would not want to be in your shoes.
Obviously, you have a high regard for your own wishes. Good luck in finding a congregation which fits that.
Dittos on the Eastern Orthodoxy, one of Christianity’s best kept secrets. You will find a fair number of us former Lutherans there. I have also run into a number of former Mennonites there too.
Eastern Orthodoxy Churches are run from the bottom up, with Christ our infallible head.
Fine....I confess!!! Me and my bff's cheated on our Confirmation tests! There, I said it!
Now with that out in the open, I have learned much more reading my Bible on my own (thanks to the Jehovah Witness's)....yes, the JH's!!
I did Bible studies with them and they taught me how to read the Bible. For that I will ever be grateful.
Dittos on the Eastern Orthodoxy, one of Christianity’s best kept secrets. You will find a fair number of us former Lutherans there. I have also run into a number of former Mennonites there too.
Eastern Orthodoxy Churches are run from the bottom up, with Christ our infallible head, just like it was from the beginning.
There’s a very serious fellow in there, as well as a very witty humorous fellow.
But, but, but, but -— I always thought that God was first. Even above our own wishes! >Sarc off
"Your aunt was correct. You needed to go forward for a blessing and prayer."
And who is this mere man to tell us WE are NOT Christs child and NOT receive his body as a holy offering?
Did Christ ONLY die for Catholics? No, he died for ALL of us. That includes us.
He knew why we took His body. It was pure and simply for Him. We said NO MAN can tell we are not yours.
I bookmarked your link. Thank you. I am in desperate need to get on the right path.
God will wait for all sinners to come home.
Don’t you pray,
“Our Father who art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.
God is waiting for you to come home.
For one, do not listen to the Roman Catholics on this thread as far as the supposed “unity” in their ranks. There are just as many liberals seeking to undermine Scripture there, and the Pope tolerates them. Furthermore, the conservative doctrines also undermine the Scriptures. The RCC might look monolithic on the outside, but it is far from on the inside.
You mentioned Presbyterians. If you go to a Presbyterian Church, avoid PC(USA) churches, which are mostly liberal, and become more liberal all the time. I go to a congregation that is a part of the Presbyterian Church in America. There is also the Evangelical Presbyterian Church, which accepts women in the eldership and is less confessional, but is still Evangelical. Also, any member denomination of the North American Presbyterian and Reformed Council (NAPARC) contains mostly faithful congregations. I’d encourage you to do to NAPARC’s website (http://www.naparc.org/) and you can tackle the basics of all the conservative Reformed denominations from there.
Also, as far as Lutheran denominations, the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod and Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod are faithful.
If you truly believe the the Eucharist you received was the Body, Blood, Soul, & Divinity of Christ, then you should take a second look at the Catholic Church. We believe in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.
“And who is this mere man to tell us WE are NOT Christs child and NOT receive his body as a holy offering?”
This ‘mere man’ is an ordained priest who was conveying that the Catholic church does not regard the Eucharist as symbolic. Instead, we believe that it actually becomes the Body, Blood, Soul, & Divinity of Jesus during the Mass. Therefore, it’s not appropriate for those who do not believe as such to receive Holy Communion. And, no, we don’t think Christ only died for Catholics.
Ah Charles. I follow him on the DUFUnnies!
Thank you, bcsco and Conservativegreatgrandma, for recommending me as a contact. And yes, NoGrayZone, I think I could be of help in guiding you to a true church--indeed, a truly Lutheran church (unlike the ELCA churches that could have a woman or homo pastor).
I am a Lutheran pastor, LCMS (Missouri Synod), and we have a number of congregations in Long Island. I used the lcms.org church locator to find some listings, and I was looking for names of pastors I recognized. I came across one church listing (for starters) that looks promising.
Trinity Lutheran Church
5 Durham Road
New Hyde Park, NY 11040
516-354-8883
http://locator.lcms.org/nchurches/c_detail.asp?C633562 http://trinitynewhydepark.org
I know it's a few miles west of Suffolk County, but it is on Long Island, and based on their website, it looks worth checking out. The pastor's name is Rev. Jimmy Coffey. Tell him that I sent you.
Now there may be other decent LCMS churches on Long Island, but this should get you going, at least.
Let me know how it goes, either on this thread or by freepmail.
Any advise to where we can look? Anyone know anything about Presbyterians?
Depends what Presyberians. PCUSA, the big old mainline, is most of what you see out there. They recently caved in to the sodomite agenda.
Smaller Presbyterian and Reformed bodies (see here: NAPARC.org), no. Trouble is, those congregations, outside of some regional concentrations, are few and far between. Alas.
Postmark....
I have book marked your link. I am off tomorrow so I can spend my time searching.
Thank you. Please FReepmail me some of your favorites. As I have stated, the road is crooked, narrow, unlit and VERY hard to stay on path.
I want to stay on path and any help would be graciously accepted!
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How Old Is Your Church?
What area are you in? Or, are you willing to move to find a good Church/congregation?
I wouldn’t recommend the Moonies, or the Scientologists, but, for completeness sake, don’t they deserve a mention here?
I’m just curious about something. The ELCA, or whatever “it’s” name is, that now allows gay and women Pastors.
I believe any Lutheran Church that has disassociated itself with these people should also disassociate itself with the Lutheran name.
Perhaps it is just me, but if you think “mainstream”, they think ALL Lutheran Churches are like that.
Perhaps it is He who is “herding His flock” that allows it. I just think any Lutheran Church that has disassociated itself with the PC should also disassociate itself with the Lutheran name.
I have NO IDEA what is going on with this upside down, right is wrong being, but I want NO part of it.
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