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To: D-fendr
How can humans be responsible for their choices without free will?

Because free will is not neutral. Our "free will" fell in the Garden and we now choose to sin, of our free will. It is not until we have been born again that our free will can choose to come to Christ.

58 posted on 06/14/2011 4:36:59 AM PDT by Gamecock (It's not eat drink and be merry because tommow we die, but rather because yesterday we were dead.)
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To: Gamecock; D-fendr
Because free will is not neutral.

Of course it isn't. If it was, it would be called "Chance".

Our "free will" fell in the Garden and we now choose to sin, of our free will.

No--we now have the ability to choose sin--it's a small, but distinctive difference. Unfortunately, most people choose sin with great enthusiasm. However, it does not preclude our ability to choose not to sin--it just makes it more difficult.

It is not until we have been born again that our free will can choose to come to Christ.

So, we're saved before we choose to come to Christ?

60 posted on 06/14/2011 6:00:18 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Gamecock

The way I see it, our will isn’t free at all until we are regenerated. Then, and only then, are we free to “choose” Christ. Be cause at that point there really isn’t any other choice.


61 posted on 06/14/2011 6:01:49 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: Gamecock; ShadowAce
If you cannot choose, make a choice between one or the other, you do not have free will. By definition.
75 posted on 06/14/2011 8:33:47 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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