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To: HarleyD

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

NONE . . .

NOT A SINGLE ONE . . . IIRC,

OF THE RC’S AND CERTAINLY NONE OF THE RABID CLIQUE TYPES

have EVER

dealt much at all, if at all,

and certainly NOT remotely convincingly

with the obvious fact that

if “cousins” were meant in those verses—the

WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE VERSES IS NUKED—DISAPPEARS!

Cousins in that culture were a dime a hundred. There would have been little to no great emphasis or significance in referring to cousins in the context of those verses.

ONLY BROTHERS AND SISTERS FITS THE CONTEXT.


86 posted on 06/13/2011 6:33:35 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

89 posted on 06/13/2011 6:35:35 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: Quix
the WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE VERSES IS NUKED—DISAPPEARS!

That objection is hilarious, in view of the meaningless hash which Protestant "interpretation" makes out of Matthew 16 and John 6.

90 posted on 06/13/2011 6:37:31 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: Quix
so, wait a minute -- you dispute this, yet don't you believe that Jesse Duplantis went to heaven and comforted God?

Jesse Duplantis who says Jesse noted the following new revelation of Jesse about heaven

  1. "Some people don't live close to God the way they should. They know Jesus as their Savior, but they could do so much better. In heaven they will eventually be able to go to God’s Throne, but it takes more time for them." -- interesting, even in heaven?

  2. "They almost got there; then they stopped, turned around and had to go back. It seemed as if they were depressed. I heard someone say, "There is no depression here. Just eat of the Tree of Life, smell the leaves for healing and let your spirit grow. You shall stand at the Throne of God."" --> interesting, the sanctification process isn't completed in heaven?

  3. David tells Jesse "I think I should have allowed more of the answer to come through, instead of the complaining. " --> oh, so Jesse thinks that scripture is NOT inspired, but what David allowed to come through? -- what unbiblical words from hell spoken by the demonic possessed fraud Jesse Duplantis

  4. "I didn’t know before how much He needed me to reach out to other people. I have always thought of how much I needed Him, not how much He needs me. . .He smiled at me and said, "I chose you. No one else wanted you, and I need you Jesse." --> ego surfing!

151 posted on 06/14/2011 4:21:07 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Quix
so, wait a minute -- you dispute this, yet don't you believe that Jesse Duplantis "preaches the scripture"?

Jesse Duplantis who says

"With fierce prayers and determination to see my mother healed, I started talking to God. "What is going on here?! I'm praying! Dad's praying! Why isn't she healed? You cannot allow death to defeat me, God. You made a covenant with me through Jesus' blood! And that covenant says by His stripes we were healed! Where is that healing? If you break this covenant with me, you'll have to cease to be God! You must keep covenant with me. You must obey your Word!"

152 posted on 06/14/2011 4:23:00 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Quix
how can anyone say Jesse Duplantis’ Heaven visit revealed a visual experience at The Throne vis a vis Christ being in The Father and The Father being in Christ that portrayed it about as well as I’d ever heard of.

when Jesse, the demonic con-man Duplantis gives a new revelation that God is a mile-high and surrounded by a huge wall and actually in the shape of a man, is that what you would consider "revealed to us"? Is it a new revelation?

153 posted on 06/14/2011 4:25:35 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Quix
do note -- the question was does Jesse Duplantis' revelation that God is a mile-high and surrounded by a huge wall and actually in the shape of a man, is that what you would consider "revealed to us"? Is it a new revelation?

for instance, Jesse says

I saw Him! I saw Elohim, Jehovah God, Yahweh sitting on the Throne! But I saw His feet - only His feet. . . He is so big - you can’t describe Him in a dimension. His hand is huge! His body, the form of it, is sort of like energy, spirit. There’s a wall around the Throne, but the Throne is higher than the wall - that’s why you can see the Throne from every direction, from a distance. And that power, that energy-like smoke of God, covers all around the chair of the Throne itself."
besides the fact that this contradicts I Tim. 6:16 16Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. -- is this what "He has revealed to us"? Should Jesse's revelations be taken as true?

Why do you believe him?

154 posted on 06/14/2011 4:26:32 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Quix
Don't you see the sheer blasphemy in the following statements?
By Jesse Duplantis
God has the power to take life, but He can’t.
He’s got the power to do it, but He won’t. He’s bound; He can’t.
He says, “Death and life is in the power of” who’s tongue? Yours. You ready for this? You want something that’ll knock your lights off?
You choose when you live; you choose when you die. Death and life is in the power of your tongue, not God’s.

"Adam (not God) breathed life into animals"

“The very first thing on Jesus’ agenda was to get rid of poverty!

"With fierce prayers and determination to see my mother healed, I started talking to God. "What is going on here?! I'm praying! Dad's praying! Why isn't she healed? You cannot allow death to defeat me, God. You made a covenant with me through Jesus' blood! And that covenant says by His stripes we were healed! Where is that healing? If you break this covenant with me, you'll have to cease to be God! You must keep covenant with me. You must obey your Word!"

God tells Jesse: "You have Me in a hard place, Jesse. Someone has got to give in. Get yourselves together and tell Me what I am to do!" --> So God needs Jesse to tell Him what to do?

By benny hinn
God has 9 parts (tri-theistic).
A. God has a body, soul and spirit.
B. Jesus has a body, soul and spirit.
C. Holy Spirit has a body, soul and spirit. (Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn broadcast, recorded 10/13/90)

"He [Jesus] who is righteous by choice said, 'The only way I can stop sin is by Me becoming it. I can't just stop it by letting it touch Me; I and it must become one.' Hear this! He who is the nature of God became the nature of Satan where He became sin!" (Benny Hinn, TBN, 12/1/90).


155 posted on 06/14/2011 4:28:34 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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