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To: Salvation; dartuser
Not so much contact as intercourse.

The Tabernacle of the First Ark was so filled with God's presence and grace that even Moses could not enter it

Ex 40:34-35. And Moses was not able to enter into the tent of the congregation, because the cloud abode therein, and the glory of the the Lord filled the tabernacle.
Neither would Joseph enter into this Ark of the New covenant -- he was a good, holy man who knew the stories of Uzzah from 2 Samuel.

Joseph probably didn't understand how this dedicated virgin could have a child except by well, naughty means, but then an angel appears to him and Joseph listens. Then strange things happen and Joseph is convinced (or perhaps I malign him and he believed right from the start).

Joseph now KNOWS that God has filled Mary's womb and that the child is from God.

Tradition holds that Joseph was an elderly widower who took charge of this young mother (hence accounting for the fact that after Jesus's escapade in the temple at 12, Joseph "disappears"

Anyway, Joseph would know

Ezekiel 44: " 2Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut."

The Eastern gate by which God entered the world.

179 posted on 06/14/2011 7:21:31 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Cronos
Not so much contact as intercourse.

Now you are prefacing your typology ... and you are equating tabernacle and ark ...

My jaw remains open in observing your interpretation of Ezekiel 44, what kind of special sauce you are applying here?

If you were to bother to continue in Ez 44, you would read ...

3 As for the prince, he shall sit in it as prince to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by way of the porch of the gate and shall go out by the same way.

If I was to apply the same hermeneutic as you suggest, I would be forced to claim that the prince got in after the gate was shut via the porch; which imples Mary DID have intercourse after giving birth to Jesus.

You see how silly this interpretation is? ... Doesn't it makes sense that Ezekiel is not talking about Marys body here, but rather an actual gate, an actual porch, an actual temple?

You are making, what should be, straightforward Biblical interpretation much harder than it is. Typology run amuck.

188 posted on 06/14/2011 8:05:24 AM PDT by dartuser ("Dealing with preterists is like cleaning the litter box ... but at least none of the cats are big.")
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