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To: metmom; Turtlepower; it_ürür; Bockscar; Mary Kochan; Bed_Zeppelin; YellowRoseofTx; Rashputin; ...
God told Joseph to marry Mary. He did it. He waited to consummate the marriage until after the birth of Jesus.
Well there we have it. The triumph of Y.O.P.I.O.S., one protty says Joseph was engaged to Mary, the other says he actually married her but delayed consummation until the Birth. Both are convinced they are right. Who knows?

She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man's understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God. (Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther's Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)

262 posted on 06/01/2011 7:11:22 AM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: narses
"Both are convinced they are right. Who knows?"

Given that, "the lot is in the lap of the Lord", just flip a coin in this case and in other cases uses the appropriate number of die to cover competing interpretations. Churches can help out the faithful by selling approved twelve sided die that have been prayed over the same way some churches now sell prayer hankies.

There you have it, Sola Aleae perfects Sola Scriptura.

264 posted on 06/01/2011 8:07:31 AM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: narses
It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God. (Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther's Works

Why? I disagree with Luther on this...it is enough to recognize Mary as the Mother of Jesus....she is not central..He is... Furthermore, though Jesus is indeed God..I do not see mary as the mother of God....who needs no mother...He is God.

267 posted on 06/01/2011 8:37:29 AM PDT by caww
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To: narses
It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.
-Martin Luther

Thankfully, Luther got one thing right.

268 posted on 06/01/2011 8:42:15 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: narses
Well there we have it. The triumph of Y.O.P.I.O.S., one protty says Joseph was engaged to Mary, the other says he actually married her but delayed consummation until the Birth. Both are convinced they are right. Who knows?

You would know too if you would read a bible...

They sell 'em down to the five and dime...Cheap too...With the red letters...

272 posted on 06/01/2011 8:54:20 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: narses

I have pondered it. Here:

http://catholiclane.com/two-josephs-both-alike-in-chastity/

and here:

http://catholiclane.com/perfection-joins-our-pilgrimage-in-mary/


298 posted on 06/01/2011 11:56:17 AM PDT by Mary Kochan (http://www.catholiclane.com)
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To: narses
Well Narses, I am a bit taken aback upon having a Y.O.P.I.O.S. bestowed upon me.

WWPS? (What would Polycarp say?)

433 posted on 06/02/2011 1:45:58 AM PDT by Barnacle (Is treason a high crime or misdemeanor?)
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