Posted on 05/31/2011 11:53:33 AM PDT by marshmallow
...as opposed to the traditional teachings of Rome. Mindful of the fact so often stated by some that if Rome doesn't say something is so, or not so, then the followers will abide by Rome either way regardless of the integrity of the scriptures presented.
All truth needed to believe the gospel and grow fully in grace is contained in Scripture.Nowhere in the Bible is abortion mentioned by name, yet Christ surely knew it would become the worst sin in America and the world today. And no one can grow fully in grace that believes in killing children before they are born. I, myself, carry a rosary with me pretty much 24-7, and I can't tell you how many times someone (usually a store clerk) has picked up my rosary when I'm at the register, commenting on its beauty (it's an enormously beautiful rosary), and then they follow that up with talking about Mary or Catholic schools, etc. or just how important prayer is in the world today. While I also wear a scapular, medals, and a cross at times (they've never once been commented on), it's the rosary that grabs the attention of others; it's Our Mother leading people to her Son.
That verse will carry no weight to catholics for they claim they do not bow or worship any idols...even with visuals that they indeed do, as well as their leadership, they will continue to deny this. As is typical with false religions they have acquired their tactics of twisting scripture and abusing verbage to call it something else entirely then what it is.
Fail.
Nice canard, though. That's not what's meant by Sola Scriptura. Sola Scriptura is the statement that scripture is infallible and inerrant; that scripture contains all of the information necessary to understand salvation... Nice try to warp the definition, though.
Hoss
Maybe that's not true with Catholics...LOL...
Could be that's where they got the idea of nuns...
Does the name of Jesus ever come up, or is your rosary leading these people to your Church???
People just don’t realize that the Rosary mysteries are about the Life of Christ, do they. We say the name of Jesus with each “Hail Mary”
Prayers for the unbelievers.
And good for you as you evangelize in this way.
Does the name of Jesus ever come up, or is your rosary leading these people to your Church???That thought never dawned on me, Iscool. I don't know if the people picking up my rosary (and there's been about six or seven so far) are even all Catholic. I never really asked, and I don't invite these folks to church or to pray either. One woman yesterday (before she checked out my groceries) picked up the rosary and said, "so beautiful, so beautiful," and put her hands together in prayer.
People just dont realize that the Rosary mysteries are about the Life of Christ, do they. We say the name of Jesus with each Hail MaryIndeed, so true. Mary was there with Jesus the whole time. Some act as if she died in Childbirth.
Exactly..this is about the authority of scripture over” human “tradition and a declaration by the Catholic lead Prophet
Jesus does not have a goddess mother.. His holiness exists independently of Mary..
Jesus came into the world to be fully human and fully divine.. he needed a human mother to have that be true..
Jesus ate with sinners.. drank with sinners and chose sinners to be His disciples .. remember He touched the woman with the issue of blood? That would have made Him "unclean"
It is commonly believed that original sin is passed from the Father not the mother.. as it was Adam that sinned ..even though Eve first tasted the apple.. ..
Because Jesus did not have a human father he was born without sin .. so he was fully human but without sin..
God told Adam not to touch the tree. Maybe Adam told Eve. Maybe Adam was right there when Eve took the apple and did not stop her. The first sin was Adam's not Eve's.
Just a note to everyone, when the discussion degenerates to stuff like this,
“It is commonly believed that original sin is passed from the Father not the mother.. as it was Adam that sinned ..even though Eve first tasted the apple.. ..”
It is absolutely pointless to engage further. Please, I ask, get off the thread and stay off. It’s just ridiculous, and almost any post you make is going to be twisted. Do we enjoy this? No. Does it convince anyone? No. Even the lurkers are well aware of the idiocy. You may disagree, and I won’t comment further about it. Just that these are pointless, sinful, really stupid threads.
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree [was] good for food, and that it [was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Genesis 2:15-18 15The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it. 16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, 17but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die." 18Then the LORD God said, "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him."
Apparently, Adam did not relay the instructions accurately, as Eve was under the impression that there were not even to touch it. Here she misquotes what God told Adam.
Genesis 3:1-3 1Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God actually say, 'You shall not eat of any tree in the garden'?" 2And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, 3but God said, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'"
So, she decides to eat, with Adam there watching the whole scenario, not intervening.
Genesis3:6-7 6So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.
Sin was not counted until Adam ate. Man is not as easily deceived as woman and therefore responsible for his household spiritually.
There are plenty of references in the NT which state that sin entered through the man, the first Adam.
Romans 5:12-21 12Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned 13for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. 14Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.
15But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one mans trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. 16And the free gift is not like the result of that one mans sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. 17For if, because of one mans trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
18Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. 19For as by the one mans disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one mans obedience the many will be made righteous. 20Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, 21so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Canonized Scripture is quite clear that sin entered the world through man. Scripture that is considered to be infallible.
I have pondered it. Here:
http://catholiclane.com/two-josephs-both-alike-in-chastity/
and here:
http://catholiclane.com/perfection-joins-our-pilgrimage-in-mary/
Apparent satan wanted her to doubt what God said...he still uses this same tactic today, create doubt of the truth and once there it is a small step to add further to what God says....and I think he knew he had her in his trap when she added to what God said...this too happens when people follow false teachings...more and more gets added ..because the truth reveals the falsehood... so they have to keep inventing more and more and adding to their stance....until you have volumes of information to confuse and confound from the truth.
Eve was overwhelmed and deceived....on the other hand Adam deliberately took and ate fulling understanding that God told him not to eat. Sin came thru Adam...just as scripture states.
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