Posted on 05/27/2011 1:03:35 PM PDT by topcat54
Christian parents wonder today why the majority of their children today leave the church when they become teenagers and never come back. I’ll tell you why. A big part is due to the nonsensical hounding upon Rapture and End Times by most Christian pastors, teachers, and parents. You’ve heard the phrase, “The economy, stupid.” The modern Christian equivalent should be “The eschatology, stupid.”
Your eschatology matters. What you believe about the future will determine much of how you live your life, and will affect much of your character.
In times of crisis, this truth is magnified. True believers will take action based upon their beliefs without a second thought. This can have detrimental, even tragic, consequences.
A recent and tragic example of this is Lyn Benedetto, a 47-year old California woman who tried to kill her children to spare them from going through the Great Tribulation. She believed Harold Camping’s prediction that the Rapture would take place on May 21, 2011, and apparently feared she or her daughters would miss it. She slit the throats and wrists of her 11 and 14 year-old daughters, and then her own.
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There is truth to this, end times and revelations is not much to build a life of Christian fellowship, families, Christian learning and growth on.
Stopped reading here. Anyone this ignorant of current prevailing Christian practice and belief has nothing useful to say. The reality is that "most Christian pastors, teachers, and parents" pay no attention to "Rapture and End Times" whatsoever. These are splinter concerns.
A lot of the eschatology stuff drives the Israel debate.
The religious aspect is what drives a lot of public support for Israel. I even heard Sarah Palin make reference to the "Old Testament" to support her backing of Israel last week.
But for many many people, it's what they believe about eschatology in Scripture which is driving their beliefs about Israel.
If the Church is going to prevail, who needs Christ?
I thought that what you meant was 70 AD was a signal that the dynamics concerning the Old Covenant had changed.
Usually dispensationalists say that 1948 was the point of change.
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And plenty of Christians think that what you're preaching is not what the Bible teaches, but is a combination of hyperliteral interpretation of a book that is full of symbolism, along with reading into the text stuff that simply isn't there.
For example:
After the tribulation period is a 1,000 year reign on Earth by Yeshua
The Bible says:
And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a[a] thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. -- Rev 20:4-6, NKJVNothing in that passage says that Jesus will reign visibly on earth for 1000 years. Maybe that's what it means, but that's just one interpretation, not the only "Biblical" one.
Having said that, I also think that the events of AD 70 were merely the "dress rehearsal" for the real End Times, and the real capital-T Tribulation is yet to come.
And Jesus will rule all nations with a rod of iron and put them under his feat...
How then do we explain Iran and Afghanistan, or Sudan, or the U.S.A. for that matter???
How much scripture must they destroy to come up with Preterism fallacy???
I thought that what you meant was 70 AD was a signal that the dynamics concerning the Old Covenant had changed.Usually dispensationalists say that 1948 was the point of change.
After a generation's grace period after Christ's resurrection and ascention, A.D. 70 was the unquestionable end of the Old (Mosaic) Covenant typological cultic order. No temple to go to, no sacrifices, priesthood scattered or dead.
"In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. "
It's bothersome, that some Christians want it back.
Yup.
In fact, all doctrine matters.
If you go to a church that just teaches Jesus loves you, why go to church. After all, Jesus loves you. I can sleep in and it doesn't matter.
After all, Jesus loves you.
In Jude, verse 5, the English Standard Version uses a textual variant. From what I've read, it's the better attested reading, but it's jarring.
Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
Jesus loves, who?
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