Posted on 05/21/2011 4:46:26 AM PDT by marbren
Camping is a victim of replacement theology. IMHO the lie of replacement theology is almost as insidious as idolatry. The key to holistic understanding of Bible prophecy is to understand the role of Israel in it. God keeps his promises to Israel. This is a model to the rest of us that he will keep his promises to us as well.
A majority of the church going world has been victimized. I believed the lie for 35 years. During the past 20 I have been seeking the truth and only recently did I stop saying IMHO replacement theology is a lie and replaced it with: Replacement theology is a lie dropping the IMHO. For those that do not know, Replacement theology is the lie that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan.
The church was polluted by Replacement theology early on. Origen and Augustine, early Fathers of the church, were the first to muddy up the scriptures in this way when they arrogantly took on the mantle of Israel for themselves. Martin Luther apparently did not study it and this lead to his anti-Semitism and Hitler. In many ways IMHO it is like a reverse of the circumcision party that led to Acts 15.
This replacement theology lie has lead to the church we have today. Everyone is running around not knowing what is happening in these end times we are in. The truth is The Church, the Bride of Christ, has a role and Israel has a role. Think of men and women, children and parents, husbands and wives, angels and people, dogs and cats, sheep and goats, wheat and tares. All these have roles God invented.
So the solution: Open your Bible, drop your preconceived notions and open your mind, ask God to reveal the truth about all this Israel stuff written in the Bible. The Lord Jesus Christ is central in it all. Gods Grace and Mercy is incredible, He does all the work. Faith and hope and love permeate the entire Bible and the greatest of these is love.
Romans 11 is pretty convincing.
My group? And what group would that be Mr. Cronos? Are you making assumptions, making accusations, or just trying to assign me to some “group”? Any one of those three is rather counter to FR policy aren’t they?
Romans 11 has to do with spiritual Israel. Paul is telling the Gentiles that they have been grafted onto the tree in place of those broken branches that have fallen off. Therefore the Gentile is every much a part of the tree as the “natural” branches were. This is of course a metaphor for the new Israel of God’s people, Jews and Gentiles together. Paul clearly states that the “natural branches” i.e. the Jews were not spared. He goes on to say that if they begin to believe they will be grafted back on. This all depends on their belief. Modern Israel does not believe in Christ, so it is therefore no longer the repository of God’s elect. That is reserved for the Church which contains people of all walks of life.
Thanks Matchett-PI I had not seen the link to that
list before
Here is some rapture ready info on preterism. I have not read it yet but I do like RaptureReady
The context is clear that Paul is talking about the children of Abraham, the patriarchs, etc. in Romans 11. There is no categorical replacement of Israel with believers in this closing part of Romans 11.
The Lord loves diversity - therein lies perfection. Conformity serves the Corporate Vatican. True spiritual teachers make little and hate adoration. (BL JPII)
Everyone can read. Everyone has the internet. We are adults that can reason.
True.
Though I don’t see how you’re connecting that to my #257.
Just for fun, How do we know kids, angels, demons, ET's are not posting on FR?
Great question.
I love Rapture Ready but IMO the person who wrote Jack Van Impe’s review is biased. He really really hates catholics and muslims. Do you get that impression Alamo-Girl?
You wrote: “I do not think the partial preteist amill position has been discussed yet.”
You know better than that:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2716739/posts?page=140#140
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2716739/posts?page=232#232
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2716739/posts?page=282#282
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2716739/posts?page=283#283
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2716739/posts?page=341#341
I simply cannot discard any passage of Scripture, and the overwhelming wealth of Biblical passages which detail God' plans for the nation of Israel, including bringing them back to the land He have them, re-establishing the nation of Israel in one day, forgiving them of their sins - the list is endless- shows us without a doubt that while Christ died on the cross for all mankind, and while He has spent the past 2000 years gathering a people for Himself from the Gentiles (and many Jews as well), God still has plans for the nation of Israel which He not only is in the process now of carrying out, but will continue to fulfill until all of His promises to the Jewish people are kept.
This is quite long but very educational and gives the exhaustive Scripture throughout the Old Testament which shows emphatically God's plans for His people and their roles in the Millennial Kingdom.
It is simply impossible to say that because present-day Jews are, for the most part, living in unbelief that means that God is done with them, especially with the inarguable Biblical passages that contradict that most unfortunate view.
We'll have to disagree on this. I simply don't see what you see.
I recognize that narrative; it parallels the one we hear from the book peddlers selling Crisis Theology
You may have missed my lead-in to the topic, earlier on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2722990/posts?page=88#88
Yes, I did miss it. Great post!
Sorry Matchett-PI, I meant it has not been discussed on this thread. BTW does PI stand for private investigator?
read 1 John 2:19 please.
the one thousand year period is NOW, the whole time frame from the cross until very close to the end of the world, when the devil will be loosed for a bit. it is not a literal 1,000 years, but a spiritual one.
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