[Dr. Eckleburg]

(yes, big mistake to "assume")

No, it's not always a "mistake" to assume. Not when all evidence points to a consistent, glaring conclusion.

Here is a handy web page I just found...

ROMAN CATHOLICISM VS. SCRIPTURE
The 62 Errors of the Roman Catholic Church

[Notwithstanding]

Miss Eckels:

A billion members and only 62 errors!

Surely you can find more than that!
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Don’t call me Shirley.

[Judith Anne]

The Rochester Baptist Church website? Are you Baptist? Do you agree with Baptist theology, ie Southern Baptist Convention statements?

Amazing!

[OpusatFR]

HILLAIOUS!!!

“Here is a handy web page I just found...”

Eckleburg uses a BAPTISTS website while this is what the OPC which Eckleburg is btw, believes about Baptists!

“Question and Answer
Baptists and the OPC

Question:

Is it a general practice for OPC ministers to make strong comments concerning believers’ baptism and the folly of the Baptist denomination?

Answer:

Orthodox Presbyterians, especially ministers and elders, strongly disagree with Baptists on their view of baptism, though they recognize sincere Baptists as brothers and sisters in Christ. One thing we don’t hear from our pulpits is tirades against Baptists and their doctrine of “believers’ baptism.” It does no good to our concerns for brotherly love among believers and grieves those who might have friends or relatives who are Baptists.”

http://www.opc.org/qa.html?question_id=282

[Quix]

Excellent.

Thanks.

Will have to archive it when i get home.

[wmfights]

You come up with some of the best links! Thanks.

[HossB86]

Here is a handy web page I just found...

EXCELLENT post; it's amazing to the see how many of the same verses are quoted there as have been quoted here to refute the false doctrines being taught by the Roman Catholic Church! Thanks Doc! Hoss

[presently no screen name]

Justification is by faith alone (Romans 3:28).

Catholics prefer 'reasoning' to faith.

God justifies ungodly sinners who believe (Romans 4:5) Good works are a result of salvation, not the cause (Ephesians 2:8-10).

Catholics are taught their filthy rags (works) are needed for salvation. No wonder why they question if they have it.

The justified are in themselves beautiful and holy in God's sight. The justified are In Christ holy and blameless before God (Ephesians 1:1-14).

Catholics can't handle we who are 'in Christ' are blessed, blessed, blessed' - they call it pride. LOL! More of 'their reasoning'. I am holy, I am blameless in God's sight because of JESUS!

I am a friend of God! With a friend like that - I could have one billion pawns of satan against me and I'd say 'give me your best shot' for 'HE Who is in me, is greater than he who is in the world". Thank You, JESUS!

Christians already have the Victory! ....
"A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you".

Praise God! Thank You for Your Son, My Savior.

[boatbums]

Thank you for that helpful link. I am saving it to my Favorites list. I wonder how many “truth-seekers” will read it, ponder it and look up the references for themselves? I wonder how many will brush it off without so much as a glance simply because it highlights errors may exist in the theology of the Roman Catholic religion?

As believers, our work for Christ is to evangelize the world and point all to the simplicity that is in Christ Jesus. The responsibility then is moved to the hearer to respond to that truth. We must always “speak the truth in love” but we cannot force belief on anyone. The Holy Spirit will open the eyes of those whose hearts earnestly seek him.

[Cronos]

Here's a handy web-page I found

This is what an ex-Ruling Elder of the OPC says about this group:

From the Trinity Foundation

• the Report continues the conspiracy of silence that has prevailed in the OPC for three decades. It leaves the erroneous impression that the serious doctrinal problems are outside the denomination, not within it. The Report gives false comfort to those who think the OPC is still a bastion of Biblical orthodoxy. On the contrary, the Report, and the 2006 General Assembly’s commendation of it, both maintain the OPC as a safe haven for those who teach error
• Men within the OPC, including at least one member of the Committee itself, teach heresy regarding the Gospel and many other fundamentals of the faith.
• The OPC long ago ceased to proclaim the one true Gospel to the exclusion of all false gospels
• The Orthodox Presbyterian Church has abandoned the marks of a true church of Jesus Christ
• The Orthodox Presbyterian Church was founded in 1936 by about 135 people who were offended by the lack of discipline in and doctrinal errors of the Presbyterian Church in the USA. .
  But early in its history the OPC fell under the influence of an agnostic view of propositional revelation emanating from Westminster Seminary -- a view that said that there is no identity of content between the \"Christian system\" of theology, meaning Reformed confessions of faith, and the \"divine system\" of theology, known only to God.
  
  This agnosticism has now brought the OPC to the point of falling. Like its predecessor, the PCUSA, the OPC has failed to discipline teachers who teach contrary to Scriptures and the Confession of Faith, and it has endorsed un-Biblical teaching about Scripture and the Gospel.

[Cronos]

Here's a handy web-page I found

This is what an ex-Ruling Elder of the OPC says about this group:

From the Trinity Foundation

• the Report continues the conspiracy of silence that has prevailed in the OPC for three decades. It leaves the erroneous impression that the serious doctrinal problems are outside the denomination, not within it. The Report gives false comfort to those who think the OPC is still a bastion of Biblical orthodoxy. On the contrary, the Report, and the 2006 General Assembly’s commendation of it, both maintain the OPC as a safe haven for those who teach error
• Men within the OPC, including at least one member of the Committee itself, teach heresy regarding the Gospel and many other fundamentals of the faith.
• The OPC long ago ceased to proclaim the one true Gospel to the exclusion of all false gospels
• The Orthodox Presbyterian Church has abandoned the marks of a true church of Jesus Christ
• The Orthodox Presbyterian Church was founded in 1936 by about 135 people who were offended by the lack of discipline in and doctrinal errors of the Presbyterian Church in the USA. .
  But early in its history the OPC fell under the influence of an agnostic view of propositional revelation emanating from Westminster Seminary -- a view that said that there is no identity of content between the \"Christian system\" of theology, meaning Reformed confessions of faith, and the \"divine system\" of theology, known only to God.
  
  This agnosticism has now brought the OPC to the point of falling. Like its predecessor, the PCUSA, the OPC has failed to discipline teachers who teach contrary to Scriptures and the Confession of Faith, and it has endorsed un-Biblical teaching about Scripture and the Gospel.

[Cronos]

This Trinity Foundation website says "Last year The Trinity Foundation published Paul Elliott’s book, Christianity and Neo-Liberalism: The Spiritual Crisis in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and Beyond. That book examines in detail the false doctrine of salvation now being taught in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church

The above website says

Thus, the Report continues the conspiracy of silence that has prevailed in the OPC for three decades. It leaves the erroneous impression that the serious doctrinal problems are outside the denomination, not within it. The Report gives false comfort to those who think the OPC is still a bastion of Biblical orthodoxy. On the contrary, the Report, and the 2006 General Assembly’s commendation of it, both maintain the OPC as a safe haven for those who teach error

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Men within the OPC, including at least one member of the Committee itself, teach heresy regarding the Gospel and many other fundamentals of the faith.

you can read the details at the link on page 109 why the Former Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC) ruling elder Paul M. Elliott says that

• Satan has won his war of attrition against the one true Gospel in the OPC (113).
• and The OPC long ago ceased to proclaim the one true Gospel to the exclusion of all false gospels (115).
• and The Orthodox Presbyterian Church has abandoned the marks of a true church of Jesus Christ (118).

Why does a former ruling elder of the OPC say that? Well, he gives his reasons in his book about the heresy that he believes the OPC is following and he is urging every OPCer to leave. You can read it too if you want -- and if you disagree with him, he's given his posting and email address in the book. accordingly.

The author’s thesis is that the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC) is today exactly where the PCUSA was back then. From Trinity Lectures Foundation

The Orthodox Presbyterian Church was founded in 1936 by about 135 people who were offended by the lack of discipline in and doctrinal errors of the Presbyterian Church in the USA. .
But early in its history the OPC fell under the influence of an agnostic view of propositional revelation emanating from Westminster Seminary -- a view that said that there is no identity of content between the \"Christian system\" of theology, meaning Reformed confessions of faith, and the \"divine system\" of theology, known only to God.

This agnosticism has now brought the OPC to the point of falling. Like its predecessor, the PCUSA, the OPC has failed to discipline teachers who teach contrary to Scriptures and the Confession of Faith, and it has endorsed un-Biblical teaching about Scripture and the Gospel.

From Trinity Lectures Foundation

Despite the painstaking efforts of many fine Christians within the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC), the leaders of the OPC maintain a suicidal course. Despite the departure of congregations and individuals from the OPC, due to the leaders' collective inability to resolve the current justification controversy Biblically, the OPC leaders continue to advance doctrines that contradict Scripture. The OPC is, in the words of its late historian Charles Dennison, "obviously inept, bumbling, [and] confused."1 That confusion now appears to be fatal.

At this point in its history, the confessional affirmations of the OPC have no more credibility than the confessional affirmations of the PCUSA from 1936 to 1967. One of the commissioners to the 2004 OPC General Assembly made this very point: "There was a time when, if the OPC said it, it was accepted. The 2003 deliverance that accompanied the decision to acquit [John Kinnaird] destroyed forever that our words will not be questioned. The PCUSA always said that the [Westminster] Confession was their confession (even as they were denying it)."

Anyone joining the OPC should know they are headed for another split or dissolution -- they are not a Church founded on faith but on a fake prophet, Machen, coupled with their rejection of being followers of Christ and becoming followers of Calvin.

This is a house built on sand in the 1930s and will not live to see its centenary The Presbyterian sect of the OPC is simply flailing at wind as one more new denomination whose ancestors were deceived or dissident, or ignorant, and cooperated with the dropped 3/4 of the Christian faith and practices,

what is hilarious is these folks saying they bring a Bible to their little group meetings as if it signifies their upper-caste status when really they do not read it.

Check out any of their meetings, what happens is that their paster reads out random verses from the Bible. Everyone quickly shuffles from one verse to another, while the paster talks fast and shuffles again.

none of them have time to ponder or reflect and since the verses are completely random, the meaning can be twisted to anything the paster wants.

they may carry their bibles to their 'meetings' but they do not read it as much as shuffle it across. Their pasters spend more time preening and talking about themselves rather than reading the word of God.

Check out ANY of this groups pasters and you will see no long reading of even a chapter, but random, stray verses from here and there.

There is a difference between knowing and what these groups have, name rote-memorisation. You ask any of these cult-members to recite from the Bible and they can quote random excerpts but they do not recite chapters. They do not seek to understand but to rote-memorise specific texts.

[Iscool]

Excellent...Now, if only some Catholics will read it...As well as the many lurkers...