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Apparitions Exposed!
Proclaiming the Gospel ^ | former Director for a "Mary, Queen of Peace Center."

Posted on 04/12/2011 7:55:27 AM PDT by bkaycee

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To: Mad Dawg; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; ...
As I have thought you knew about me . . .

I greatly prefer genuine iron sharpening iron dialogue.

It's difficult to tell that you do given that response to my last, to you.

You seem to be saying . . . that

Proddys

MUST

1.A agree that certain foundational, original facts are indeed facts.

1.B We do NOT so agree. We believe a good chunk of them to be revisionist lies from hell.

. . . that Proddys, per y'all's !!!!DEMANDS!!!! about the FR Rel Forum

2.A MUST agree with amazingly specific [for the RCC] and amazingly consistent [for the RCC] terms, definitions, sequences, processes of dialogue.

2.B We could likely come closer to that . . . but it's not really necessarily the purview of either side to dictate such things.

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3.B From our Proddy perspective . . . Basic sound logic, reason, genuine dialogue, solid dependable word definitions are all valued by the Proddys I know of on FR.

3.A It is the RCC side that trashes sound logic, reason, genuine dialogue and solid dependable word definitions.

Yet, somehow, rather arrogantly, the RCC side still manages to blame Proddys for sabotaging the dialogue???

Sheesh.

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1,861 posted on 04/19/2011 9:15:30 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Wait! We’re concerned with the original post? Really?

I knew the word “ejaculatory” used about prayer before I was 20 and 27 years before I became a Catholic.

I have learned a lot from Notwithstanding’s prank. I know the enemy is especially spiteful in Lent and Holy Week, so I won’t write off the RF right away, but it really doesn’t seem that there is much to be gained here — except confirmation of my converting to Catholic Christianity.

The suggestion that Notwithstanding’s prank casts a bad light on Catholics is risible! Remember the original post? Look at what people say about us and our Faith day by day. To try to turn us against Notwithstanding on the ludicrous grounds that he is hurting the esteem the RF non-Catholics have for us won’t work. It might have worked had there been discourse and comity before the prank.


1,862 posted on 04/19/2011 9:21:05 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

What are you talking about with “unfortunately”?

Your sect’s goal is to soil the Church.


1,863 posted on 04/19/2011 9:22:51 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Mad Dawg

I’ll throw a little out to that!

Blessed be the name of Jesus!
Blessed be His most sacred heart!
Blessed be His most precious blood!
Blessed be Jesus, true God and true man.
Blessed be His Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar in all the tabernacles throughout the world.


1,864 posted on 04/19/2011 9:28:15 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Religion Moderator; Notwithstanding

Are you chastising Notwithstanding for being a sects offender? :)


1,865 posted on 04/19/2011 9:38:52 AM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; the_conscience

The_conscience’s statement is sad, and it’s even more sad that people actually agree with him.


1,866 posted on 04/19/2011 9:42:02 AM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: Quix; 2nd amendment mama; Notwithstanding; Mad Dawg; Dr. Eckleburg
The letter of THE LAW kills . . . the Spirit brings life.

Amen to that!

Those involved in the Romanist priestcraft already believe they have the ability to transform a theological virtue into a physical reality in the case of the Eucharist. It doesn't seem too much of a leap for someone involved in the Romanist priestcraft to think that by performing a specific act on an individual that resulted in the desired effect that they were performing the same function as what they believed they were doing in the case of the Eucharist. Yet this other act would be much more psychologically fulfilling since they could see tangible results whereas in the case of the Eucharist it is only an abstraction.

Do you know of any studies being carried out that delve into the psychological nature of those who carry out these acts who are part of the Romanist priestcraft?

1,867 posted on 04/19/2011 9:42:55 AM PDT by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: Quix

Re FUTILITY:

It is fitting
that God
would ensure
the futility of
your sect’s efforts!


1,868 posted on 04/19/2011 9:44:05 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: WPaCon

I believe it is more that some take issue that I am outspoken in my discrimination against sects.


1,869 posted on 04/19/2011 9:50:32 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: the_conscience; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Quix- I’m thinking this goes a long ways to explaining the pedophile problem that exists amongst Romanists. If their theological language is coterminous with sexual language this association can lead to actions in which a person believes that the act in the natural sphere somehow relates to a theological goodness. This would be especially prevalent amongst those involved in priestcraft because they are always working in both spheres.

Aside from that, it reveals why there is no outrage from Catholics about their priest's behavior.

When someone has the base mentality that that kind of play on words is funny, then there's there's just that much less likelihood that they'll see anything wrong with impropriety when done by others.

The sheep will follow the shepherd.

1,870 posted on 04/19/2011 9:56:37 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Notwithstanding

Soul of Christ, sanctify me
Body of Christ, save me
Blood of Christ, inebriate me
Water form Christ’s side, wash me
Passion of Christ, strengthen me
O good Jesus, hear me
Within Thy wounds, hide me
Suffer me not to be separated from Thee
From the malicious enemy, defend me
In the hour of my death, call me
And bid me come unto Thee
That I may praise Thee
With Thy saints and with Thy angels
Forever and ever
Amen

—The Anima Christi


1,871 posted on 04/19/2011 10:03:32 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Religion Moderator

lolol!


1,872 posted on 04/19/2011 10:08:55 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Mad Dawg; Notwithstanding; metmom; the_conscience; 2nd amendment mama
Posts 1835, 1837 and 1870 are ridiculous and show the delusional ideas some people will talk themselves into believing about the Catholic Church.
1,873 posted on 04/19/2011 10:13:56 AM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: Notwithstanding
The use of strong language to condemn evils has been a hallmarlk of the RF. Typically such strong language is aimed against my Church.

The difference which is pretty clear to anyone reading this thread is that when Christians criticize the RCC, those criticisms involve the anti-Scriptural beliefs and practices of the RCC, whereas the "strong language" you seem to employ is simply name-calling. There's no core to your argument. No discussion of faith, practices, beliefs, perspectives, ideology, theology, etc.

Just blather.

1,874 posted on 04/19/2011 10:14:41 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Mad Dawg

This has been my 1st foray into the Religion Forum and it will be my last. I’ll gladly discuss politics publicly but have no desire to be a part of the juvenile tactics of using “sects” as innuendo, etc. I find it quite distasteful. I’ve never been considered a prude, however, I would NEVER post some of the things that have been posted here in the name of religion!


1,875 posted on 04/19/2011 10:17:07 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: the_conscience

Your sect’s perversions are sin of the worst kind.

Such people have sect’s properly described as coterminous with hell.


1,876 posted on 04/19/2011 10:18:24 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Eckelsberg,

It’s pretty clear
to anyone reading this thread
that when the Church
criticizes your sect,
those criticisms decry
your sect’s perversions and
your sect’s practices
and beliefs
that are anti-Scriptural,

whereas the “strong language”
you seem to employ is simply name-calling.

There’s never ever ever ever ever a core to your argument.

No discussion of
your sect’s faith,
your sect’s practices,
your sect’s beliefs,
your sect’s perspectives,
your sect’s ideology,
your sect’s theology,
etc.

There’s hardly even a mention of your sect.
Are you afraid of your sect’s reputation?
Your sect’s history?
Your sect’s incoherence?
Most people are delighted
to share with others
the community that helps
them to experience and know true faith in God.

But with you, all we get is blather.


1,877 posted on 04/19/2011 10:29:06 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: 2nd amendment mama

“Well, I never!”
quoth the prudish old maid.


1,878 posted on 04/19/2011 10:31:30 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding

“There’s hardly even a mention of your sect.”

That’s because there are hardly any members.


1,879 posted on 04/19/2011 10:31:33 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: 2nd amendment mama

It goes to show the extremes some people will go to to deflect attention from something which makes their religion appear in an unfavorable light.

Sorry that your foray onto the RF should be greeted in such a juvenile fashion.

Those claiming to be Christians should hold themselves to a higher standard of behavior than that. I can’t imagine how anyone who would refer to themselves as a Christian would resort to such vulgar tactics. Christians are supposed to be followers of Christ.

Could you imagine Christ making those kind of innuendos about people and their character? No wonder the non-religious consider religious people hypocrites. Sometimes the world has a better handle on what is appropriate behavior for those who name the name of Christ to behave like than those who make the claim.

There are some prayer threads and devotional threads that are worth checking out and are absolutely off limits to any kind of contention or impropriety.


1,880 posted on 04/19/2011 10:32:40 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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