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Evangelical voters are ‘intrigued’ by Donald Trump
Yahoo! News ^ | March 31, 2011 | Holly Bailey

Posted on 03/31/2011 12:00:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Are social conservatives so unhappy with the current flock of 2012 GOP contenders that they might turn to Donald Trump?

That's what some top evangelical leaders, including former Christian Coalition head Ralph Reed, tell the Christian Broadcasting Network's David Brody.

Trump, who has made headlines in recent days for his sudden embrace of birther conspiracies about President Obama, has been almost equally vocal about his surprisingly conservative views. Among other things, Trump has come out against same sex marriage and said he's against abortion--two stances that have evangelicals "intrigued," according to Brody....

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TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: certifigate; evangelicals; obama; trump
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To: Uncledave

Yes, he point blank stated this last night on BOR.


41 posted on 03/31/2011 1:33:17 PM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
According to Christain talk show that I heard a few weeeks ago, Trump was Pro-Choice. A webpage quotes Trump from the past: webpage:http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Donald_Trump_Abortion.htm

Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion I support a woman’s right to choose, but I am uncomfortable with the procedures. When Tim Russert asked me on Meet the Press if I would ban partial-birth abortion, my pro-choice instincts led me to say no. After the show, I consulted two doctors I respect and, upon learning more about this procedure, I have concluded that I would support a ban. Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p. 31-32 Jul 2, 2000 Favors abortion rights bur respects opposition Trump clarified his views on abortion, saying he favors abortion rights, but respects those who oppose his position. “I believe it is a personal decision that should be left to the women and their doctors,” he said. Source: Pat Eaton-Robb, Associated Press Dec 2, 1999

I personally don't trust him.

42 posted on 03/31/2011 1:36:25 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (1 Cor. 15, 1-4)
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To: rightly_dividing

Sorry, formatting failed.


43 posted on 03/31/2011 1:38:36 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (1 Cor. 15, 1-4)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is it the hair and the bling?
44 posted on 03/31/2011 1:39:33 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: rightly_dividing

I’m a fundamentalist Christian but at this point, for President, the only issues that matter are National Security without nation building or wild military adventures and securing the border and deporting illegals and shutting down all immigration. That’s what is and will destroy America completely, not gay guys or any of those second-tier issues. Where does Mr. Trump stand on immigration?


45 posted on 03/31/2011 1:48:50 PM PDT by MrInvisible
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To: Yet_Again
TARP. Amnesty. Open borders. 1 million new *legal* Muslim immigrants under his watch *after* 9/11. Port security to a middle eastern country. Expanding the federal government's financing of planned parenthood beyond any of his predecessors. Expanding the federal government's financing of the national endowment for the arts beyond any of his predecessors. An unnecessary war and nation building project in Iraq while Iran burned. I know that many people around here reflexively defended Bush while he was in office, but given the clarity of time perhaps we should realize that while "worst ever" was an exaggeration, Trump's criticism of the man has much validity to it.

Perhaps, in some aspects, it did. However, Trump made this over-the-top statement - G.W. Bush was "the worst president in the history of the United States" - on CNN and was lamenting the fact that John Kerry, "a good friend', lost the 2004 election to Bush. Trump was against the war in Iraq and this seemed to be the basis for his dislike of Bush. However, he sounded exactly like any leftist spewing out anti-Bush rhetoric to a receptive interviewer that shared his view of Bush. Now, he's a conservative? I doubt it. That Christian evangelicals may be 'interested' in Donald Trump simply demonstrates the paucity of solid conservatives being considered as potential candidates for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination. I'm a Christian evangelical and I admit that Trump is fun to watch, to a point, but I'm not really interested in Donald Trump becoming the GOP presidential candidate in 2012 - and I do not believe he shares my political or cultural values. Sarah Palin does - and if she runs for the GOP presidential nomination, she'll have my vote.

46 posted on 03/31/2011 1:54:02 PM PDT by Jim Scott ('The collapse of the Entitlement State is not going to be pretty'. - Mark Steyn)
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To: screaminsunshine

Given that Trump is a known Hillary Clinton supporter in the past and given that Ron Paul is completely wrong on most foreign policy issues, I’ll pass on both.


47 posted on 03/31/2011 1:55:40 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: MrInvisible

I am looking into Trumps previous activities and statements on positions. When I get it together, I am going to put it all together to post on FR. I personally think he is a flipflopping, showboating media hog that enjoys the spotlight, but who knows. I have been wrong many times before.


48 posted on 03/31/2011 1:56:54 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (1 Cor. 15, 1-4)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm totally intrigued!

I'm intrigued how any evangelical could consider voting for Trump.

49 posted on 03/31/2011 2:01:47 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: Jim Scott

You and I share the same cultural values, but here in 2011 America, that’s not the priority.

The biggest priority NOW is:

A) Fix the economy.
B) Stop all immigration and DEPORT!
c) Secure Borders and US Security.

Gay guys aren’t standing on street corners to assualt anyone, nor are they breeding like rabbits, draining gov budgets, nor are they conducting home invasions or stealing jobs from Americans.


50 posted on 03/31/2011 2:02:53 PM PDT by MrInvisible
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To: MrInvisible

According to Campaiqnmoney.com:
Political Campaign Contributions by Donald Trump (1999 to Present) - $445,100
DEMOCRAT: 59.81% REPUBLICAN: 40.19%

Contributed To Party $ Amt Date
GRASSROOTS VICTORY FUND Democrat 10,000 09/20/2010
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN SENATORIAL COMMITTEE Republican 30,400 08/23/2010
COBURN FOR SENATE 2010 Republican 1,000 05/04/2010
FRIENDS OF WEINER Democrat 2,000 02/18/2010
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER Democrat 1,600 12/11/2009
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER Democrat 400 12/11/2009
HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT Democrat -2,300 11/10/2009
HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT Democrat -1,700 11/09/2009
CHARLIE CRIST FOR US SENATE None 2,400 10/16/2009
CHARLIE CRIST FOR US SENATE None 2,400 10/16/2009
MALONEY FOR CONGRESS Democrat 1,000 08/18/2009
BILL NELSON FOR U S SENATE Democrat 2,000 08/11/2009
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER Democrat 2,000 05/20/2009
FRIENDS FOR HARRY REID Democrat 2,400 03/26/2009
MCCAIN-PALIN COMPLIANCE FUND INC. Republican -1,000 07/01/2008
MCCAIN-PALIN COMPLIANCE FUND INC. Republican 1,000 05/23/2008
JOHN MCCAIN 2008 INC. Republican -1,000 05/23/2008
MCCAIN-PALIN COMPLIANCE FUND INC. Republican 2,300 05/21/2008
JOHN MCCAIN 2008 INC. Republican 2,300 05/16/2008
MCCAIN VICTORY 2008 Republican 28,450 05/15/2008
ANDREWS FOR SENATE Democrat 6,900 04/30/2008
CITIZENS FOR ARLEN SPECTER Republican 1,300 03/31/2008
DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE Democrat 25,000 01/31/2008
FRIENDS OF DAN MAFFEI Democrat 1,000 12/15/2007
GILLIBRAND VICTORY FUND Democrat 2,100 12/11/2007
HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT Democrat 600 11/12/2007
CITIZENS FOR ARLEN SPECTER Republican 1,000 10/15/2007
FRIENDS OF WEINER Democrat 2,300 09/24/2007
MICHAEL ROCQUE FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE Republican 1,000 09/05/2007
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN SENATORIAL COMMITTEE Republican 10,000 08/20/2007
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN SENATORIAL COMMITTEE Republican 10,000 08/20/2007
FRIENDS OF DAN MAFFEI Democrat 1,000 06/30/2007
LOBIONDO FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,000 06/12/2007
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE Democrat 1,000 05/31/2007
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE Democrat 1,000 05/31/2007
FRIENDS OF DICK DURBIN COMMITTEE Democrat 1,000 05/02/2007
MENENDEZ FOR SENATE Democrat 1,000 05/02/2007
JOHN MCCAIN 2008-THE EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE INC Republican 1,000 11/14/2006
FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 200 11/01/2006
MALONEY FOR CONGRESS Democrat 1,000 09/12/2006
THE COMMONWEALTH PAC — 5,000 07/26/2006
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE Democrat 20,000 06/19/2006
NEW JERSEY SENATE 2006 Democrat 1,000 05/31/2006
FRIENDS OF MARK FOLEY Republican 1,000 05/25/2006
LOBIONDO FOR CONGRESS Republican 250 05/16/2006
LOBIONDO FOR CONGRESS Republican 750 05/16/2006
TOM KEAN FOR US SENATE INC Republican 1,000 05/05/2006
NATIONAL LEADERSHIP PAC — 5,000 03/01/2006
RANGEL FOR CONGRESS Democrat 2,100 03/01/2006
RANGEL FOR CONGRESS Democrat 1,900 03/01/2006
FRIENDS OF GEORGE ALLEN Republican 1,000 02/07/2006
FRIENDS OF GEORGE ALLEN Republican 1,000 02/07/2006
LOBIONDO FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,000 01/27/2006
STRAIGHT TALK AMERICA — 4,000 12/20/2005
HAROLD FORD JR FOR TENNESSEE Democrat 1,000 12/15/2005
FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 1,000 12/02/2005
FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 900 09/30/2005
FRIENDS OF MARK FOLEY Republican 1,000 09/27/2005
STRAIGHT TALK AMERICA — 1,000 09/23/2005
LOBIONDO FOR CONGRESS Republican 250 09/12/2005
FRIENDS OF JOE LIEBERMAN Democrat 1,000 08/31/2005
NATIONAL LEADERSHIP PAC — 1,000 08/17/2005
COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT VITO FOSSELLA Republican 1,000 08/12/2005
COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT VITO FOSSELLA Republican 1,000 08/12/2005
FRIENDS OF PATRICK J KENNEDY INC Democrat 500 06/16/2005
LAUTENBERG 20 YEARS COMMITTEE Democrat 1,000 04/13/2005
LAUTENBERG 20 YEARS COMMITTEE Democrat 2,000 04/13/2005
LAUTENBERG 20 YEARS COMMITTEE Democrat 5,000 04/13/2005
LAUTENBERG 20 YEARS COMMITTEE Democrat 2,000 04/13/2005
DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE Democrat 5,000 04/06/2005
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE Republican 1,000 03/29/2005
BERKLEY FOR CONGRESS Democrat 1,000 03/28/2005
FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 1,000 03/23/2005
FRIENDS OF JOHN MCCAIN Republican 1,000 03/11/2005
SOLUTIONS AMERICA PAC — 5,000 12/09/2004
DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE Democrat 25,000 09/28/2004
BATTLE BORN POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE — 1,000 05/18/2004
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER Democrat 1,000 01/07/2004
A LOT OF PEOPLE SUPPORTING TOM DASCHLE INC Democrat 2,000 12/26/2003
A LOT OF PEOPLE SUPPORTING TOM DASCHLE INC Democrat 2,000 12/26/2003
KENNEDY FOR SENATE 2006 Democrat 1,000 12/19/2003
FRIENDS OF CHRIS DODD 2004 Democrat 1,000 10/28/2003
RANGEL FOR CONGRESS Democrat 2,000 09/30/2003
RANGEL FOR CONGRESS Democrat 500 09/30/2003
RANGEL FOR CONGRESS Democrat 2,000 09/30/2003
RANGEL FOR CONGRESS Democrat 500 09/30/2003
CITIZENS FOR ARLEN SPECTER Republican 500 09/16/2003
REFORM PAC — 1,000 08/18/2003
FRIENDS OF CLAY SHAW Republican 1,000 07/22/2003
JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT INC. Democrat 2,000 06/24/2003
SUE KELLY FOR CONGRESS Republican 250 06/23/2003
BUSH-CHENEY ‘04 INC Republican 2,000 06/16/2003
FRIENDS OF PATRICK J KENNEDY INC Democrat 1,000 06/02/2003
LOBIONDO FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,000 05/30/2003
FRIENDS OF MARK FOLEY Republican 2,000 05/29/2003
CITIZENS FOR ARLEN SPECTER Republican 1,500 05/16/2003
CITIZENS FOR ARLEN SPECTER Republican 500 05/16/2003
COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT VITO FOSSELLA Republican 1,000 05/08/2003
MCCAIN FOR SENATE ‘04 Republican 2,000 03/25/2003
FRIENDS FOR HARRY REID Democrat 2,000 03/21/2003
FRIENDS FOR HARRY REID Democrat 2,000 03/21/2003
HUDSON VALLEY VICTORY FUND — 500 11/18/2002
AMERICANS FOR A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY (ARMPAC) Republican 1,000 11/15/2002
FRIENDS OF MARK FOLEY FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,000 10/30/2002
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE CONTRIBUTIONS Republican 1,000 10/29/2002
GEPHARDT IN CONGRESS COMMITTEE Democrat 1,000 10/28/2002
NATIONAL LEADERSHIP PAC Democrat 1,000 10/25/2002
MARY’S POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE — 1,000 10/22/2002
FRIENDS OF CLAY SHAW Republican 1,000 10/16/2002
DSCC/NON-FED UNINCORP ASSOC Democrat 25,000 10/08/2002
FRIENDS OF SUSAN PARKER Democrat 1,000 10/04/2002
FRIENDS OF CHRIS DODD 2004 Democrat 1,000 09/05/2002
CITIZENS FOR MARK SHRIVER Democrat 1,000 08/19/2002
NEW JERSEY UNITED FEDERAL PAC INC. Democrat 1,000 08/07/2002
RANGEL FOR CONGRESS Democrat 1,000 05/02/2002
FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 1,000 05/01/2002
FRIENDS OF CLAY SHAW Republican 1,000 04/16/2002
SUE KELLY FOR CONGRESS Republican 750 03/25/2002
SUE KELLY FOR CONGRESS Republican 250 03/25/2002
CITIZENS FOR ARLEN SPECTER Republican 500 01/28/2002
CITIZENS FOR BIDEN - 2002 Democrat 1,000 12/31/2001
HOLLINGS FOR SENATE Democrat 1,000 12/28/2001
ERSKINE BOWLES FOR US SENATE Democrat 1,000 12/17/2001
BILL SHUSTER FOR CONGRESS Republican 250 12/10/2001
SUE KELLY FOR CONGRESS Republican 250 11/09/2001
FRIENDS OF CHRIS DODD 2004 Democrat 1,000 08/31/2001
RANGEL FOR CONGRESS Democrat 1,000 06/29/2001
SWEENEY FOR CONGRESS Republican 500 06/08/2001
FRIENDS OF PATRICK J KENNEDY INC Democrat 1,000 06/02/2001
FRIENDS OF JIM SAXTON Republican 500 05/11/2001
LOBIONDO FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,000 04/18/2001
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE CONTRIBUTIONS Republican 10,000 04/05/2001
FRIENDS OF MAX BAUCUS Democrat 1,000 03/28/2001
KERRY COMMITTEE Democrat 500 12/15/2000
ENSIGN FOR SENATE Republican 1,000 11/30/2000
FRIENDS OF MARK FOLEY FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,000 11/28/2000
DSCC NON-FEDERAL INDIVIDUALS Democrat 5,000 11/13/2000
DCCCC NON-FEDERAL ACCOUNT #5 Democrat 5,000 11/06/2000
LOBIONDO FOR CONGRESS Republican 500 10/27/2000
FRIENDS OF CLAY SHAW Republican 500 09/26/2000
NATIONAL LEADERSHIP PAC Democrat 1,000 08/25/2000
FRIENDS OF GIULIANI EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE Republican 1,000 06/30/2000
2000 REP H/S DINNER NON FED INDIVIDUAL Republican 1,000 06/15/2000
DEAR 2000 INC Democrat 1,000 06/08/2000
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE-CONTRIBUTIONS Democrat 1,000 06/07/2000
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER Democrat 750 05/23/2000
KERREY FOR U S SENATE COMMITTEE Democrat 500 03/01/2000
BUD SHUSTER FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE Republican 1,000 01/24/2000
BUD SHUSTER FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE Republican -1,000 01/24/2000
BUD SHUSTER FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE Republican 1,000 01/03/2000
DONALD J TRUMP NEW YORK DELEGATE COMMITTEE — 50,000 12/24/1999
SOLUTIONS AMERICA PAC Republican 1,000 11/18/1999
FRIENDS OF CLAY SHAW Republican 500 11/08/1999
FRIENDS OF GEORGE ALLEN Republican 1,000 11/08/1999
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE-CONTRIBUTIONS Democrat 5,000 10/29/1999
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER Democrat 250 09/23/1999
SEARCHLIGHT LEADERSHIP FUND Democrat 1,000 08/27/1999
COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT VITO FOSSELLA Republican 250 08/04/1999
KERREY FOR U S SENATE COMMITTEE Democrat 500 07/19/1999
KERREY FOR U S SENATE COMMITTEE Democrat 500 07/19/1999
FRIENDS OF GEORGE ALLEN Republican 1,000 05/10/1999
FRIENDS OF GIULIANI EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE Republican 1,000 04/23/1999
LIEBERMAN 2000 COMMITTEE Democrat 1,000 04/12/1999
LOBIONDO FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,000 03/26/1999
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER Democrat 1,000 02/25/1999
SCHUMER ‘98 Democrat 900 02/25/1999
SUE KELLY FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,000 02/23/1999
FRIENDS OF MARK FOLEY FOR CONGRESS Republican 1,000 02/18/1999
TORRICELLI FOR U S SENATE INC Democrat 1,000 02/15/1999
TORRICELLI FOR U S SENATE INC Democrat 1,000 02/15/1999
BUD SHUSTER FOR CONGRESS COMMITTEE Republican 1,000 02/03/1999
SOLUTIONS AMERICA PAC Republican 500 01/20/1999
FRIENDS OF GIULIANI EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE Republican 1,000 01/20/1999


51 posted on 03/31/2011 2:06:20 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (1 Cor. 15, 1-4)
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To: CommerceComet

I’m an evangelical Christian and I’m seriously considering voting for Donald Trump.

Why?

Because I think most of the GOP people being fielded as potential pres candidates are posers. They talk a good game but won’t deliver. Just like the current GOP congress.

Right now, we need someone who’s not necessarily beholden to the RNC or DNC elite cabals. I believe Trump loves America probably more than those guys do. We must prioritize fixing the economy, stopping ALL immigration, and making smart national security decisions. I don’t know entirely how he stands on those issues, but I like that he’s independent though running on the GOP ticket. He’s not the type of guy to be pushed around. We don’t need some GOP lackey who’s beholden to GOP elites.


52 posted on 03/31/2011 2:07:02 PM PDT by MrInvisible
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To: rightly_dividing

The way I heard it was that those donations had to be made as a sort of protection money. Makes sense.


53 posted on 03/31/2011 2:08:24 PM PDT by MrInvisible
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I contend Ron Paul is 100% correct on policy...if you believe the Constitution should be followed. Otherwise vote however you want.


54 posted on 03/31/2011 2:11:55 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: MrInvisible

I agree with your priorities for America’s restoration, I just don’t think the right person has come along yet. We have a year or so, who knows who else will throw their hat into the ring.


55 posted on 03/31/2011 2:12:29 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (1 Cor. 15, 1-4)
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To: rightly_dividing

I had hopes for Marc Rubio until the other day I heard this guy was enthusiastically supporting the Libya bombings. And apparently he’s pro-illegal. Seriously, I’m thinking of going country shopping. Immigration and diversity is the poison pill and most of the GOP, including those tough talking Texas r’s are allowing illegals to overpopulate Texas. But going country shopping isn’t so easy. I just found out the EU is busy importing 55 million Africans and now even so-called nationalist Putin is declaring Russia needs to import millions of the same. I don’t want my kids to grow up in something that resembles Brazil or Rawanda. The world has gone mad, selling more iPads has become more important than saving our nations.


56 posted on 03/31/2011 2:22:13 PM PDT by MrInvisible
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To: MrInvisible
I agree on Rubio. He looked promising for a bit.

I know what you mean about Texas, I live north of Houston.

57 posted on 03/31/2011 2:32:18 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (1 Cor. 15, 1-4)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Show me where Gov. Palin is pro-amnesty

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/dinan/2008/oct/26/palin-finally-speaks-immigration-supports-path-cit/

"Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says she supports John McCain's position on immigration, including a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

It's the first time she's addressed the issue in depth, and her views are likely to shape her chances of leading the Republican Party should McCain fail to win the White House nect month.

She said she agrees with McCain, who fought most of his party in trying to legalize most illegal immigrants..."
58 posted on 03/31/2011 2:51:46 PM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: MrInvisible
You and I share the same cultural values, but here in 2011 America, that’s not the priority.

The biggest priority NOW is:

A) Fix the economy. B) Stop all immigration and DEPORT! c) Secure Borders and US Security.

All of the above should be the paramount issues in a conservative candidate's campaign, as I assume they would be. However, I will not ignore my cultural values when choosing whom to support and vote for in the GOP primary in my state. That is how we end up with RINOs that eventually vote to continue to allow taxpayer money to help fund Planned Parenthood and, quite often, quietly endorse same-sex 'marriage', which is unacceptable to most dedicated Christians.

Gay guys aren’t standing on street corners to assault anyone, nor are they breeding like rabbits, draining gov budgets, nor are they conducting home invasions or stealing jobs from Americans.

My animus is not directed toward individuals but toward the continuing push by advocates of homosexual behavior to force it into public school curricula and, as far as possible, to make that behavior socially acceptable. I oppose that and although I agree it isn't a priority, it isn't an issue I'm willing to ignore if a candidate is 'right' on other, larger issues. Been there, done that. No more.

59 posted on 03/31/2011 3:06:02 PM PDT by Jim Scott ('The collapse of the Entitlement State is not going to be pretty'. - Mark Steyn)
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To: Yet_Again

She was on his ticket at the time, genius! I take it you have zero experience in politics.


60 posted on 03/31/2011 3:15:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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