New Joseph Smith Papers Book Provides Unprecedented Access to Early Revelations [Real Mormonism]

LDS Newsroom ^ | March 25, 201 1 | Press Release

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25 March 2011 — Salt Lake City

News Release

The Joseph Smith Papers series continues to put historic materials into the hands of modern readers. On 23 March 2011, the Church Historian’s Press released the latest book in the landmark project, Revelations and Translations, Volume 2: Published Revelations.

As a prophet of God, Joseph Smith received many types of divine communication, and this new book presents those revelations as they were printed during his lifetime. Together with its predecessor, Revelations and Translations, Volume 1: Manuscript Revelation Books , the books make the early revelations more accessible than ever before for scholars, members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and anyone with an interest in the Prophet Joseph Smith.

 

The concept of continuing revelation from God to man is a foundational doctrine for Latter-day Saints. Just as Abraham, Moses and the apostles in the day of Jesus Christ received divine guidance and knowledge, Latter-day Saints consider senior Church leaders to be prophets, from Joseph Smith to current Church President Thomas S. Monson.

“The revelations dictated by Joseph Smith meant so much to the early Latter-day Saints that no sacrifice was too great to see those revelations in print,” said Robin Jensen, one of three editors for this volume. “To now hold in a single volume many of the versions of collected revelations published at such sacrifice is gratifying not only for current members, but for researchers who can use these printed revelation texts in their own scholarship.”

The new book includes photographs of each page of an original copy of the Book of Commandments (1833) and of the first edition of the Doctrine and Covenants (1835), as well as photographs or transcriptions of several other related documents. While the first Revelations and Translations book presented the revelations in the form in which the Prophet Joseph recorded them, the high-resolution photographs in volume 2 allows readers to experience the revelations the way the early Saints read them.

This volume sheds new light on the entire process of gathering, organizing and printing the first editions of the scriptures. It also contains the group of revelations that likely would have been printed in the Book of Commandments had printing not been halted by the destruction of the Church printing office in Independence, Missouri, in mid-1833.

Elder Marlin K. Jensen, Church historian and recorder, has called The Joseph Smith Papers “the single most significant historical project of our generation.” When finished, it will be the most complete and authoritative collection of documents related to Joseph Smith.  

Eventually consisting of approximately 20 volumes, the Joseph Smith Papers project is organized into six series: Journals, Revelations and Translations, Documents, History, Administrative Records and Legal and Business. In addition to the two published Revelations and Translations books, Journals, Volume 1: 1832-1839 is also available.

[ejonesie22]

Well by Mormon standards since you can make up your own facts, he has done extensive “research”...

[Godzilla]

Christ himself in modern revelation spoke to Joseph Smith. .

Which of the 9 or so contradictory revelations are you referring to teppe????? The one where he was 14, 15 or 17 years old? In the forest or his bedroom? Where only angels appeared or spirits?

[ejonesie22]

They are getting a tick desperate...

The Internet is killing them.

[ejonesie22]

Now coming from a Burning Bosom Mormon, that is funny..

[ejonesie22]

Well at least you have no issue admitting that the LDS is Polytheist...

Of course that shuts down the “hey we are Christians too” bit...

LOL...

[ejonesie22]

And it sounds like he does?

[ejonesie22]

I am guessing the only rattle is in our friends noggin...

[ejonesie22]

I think there is a rattling...

I think the source quite posting for a bit...

[Veritas01]

John 1:14 Now the Word became flesh and took up residence among us.

the Word became flesh, as in God became a man Jesus.

[ejonesie22]

Oh come on Teppe, you have been schooled on that more than a few times. Repeating the wrong answer after being given the correct one either means you are being deceptive or bullheaded...

I am laying even odds...

Now for the straights in the audience, the “fraud” is actually a debate over Authorship of the creed, not its content and meaning as you would be lead to believe.

Here is some info:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02033b.htm

Teppe has been told this, but LDS apologist love hanging on to deceptions and misdirections and such as Gospel hoping to catch the unaware and give credence through repetition of the inaccurate info.

Consider yourself inoculated against Mormon duplicity and obfuscation on this one.

[svcw]

Is it possible for defenders of lds to actual defend rather post links, or is it true you have no idea what lds teaches and you just vomit links to words and videos?

[SZonian]

That’s the rub isn’t it?

I guess there’s enough variation between all of the accounts that plausible deniability exists to such an extent as to be meaningless and useless in a discussion on the matter.

But if you just read the First Vision® account, it’s clear what was described and it wasn’t Jesus and God.

Sheesh, now that I’m on the outside looking in, it’s so much easier to see the deception instigated by JS and perpetrated by SLC.

All those years wasted...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAk4HolquVE&feature=related

[ejonesie22]

Now in Moosies defense he is a big Sci-Fi fan...

[svcw]

Which first revelation the first or the twentieth?

[MHGinTN]

I'll encourage Elsie to stop posting anything to you since you have revealed your severe limitations. We don't 'play' anti-mormonism games, we're deadly serious about the horrible fate which awaits those who adhere to the mormonism blasphemies.

BTW, you won't go to Hell for denying the Nicean Creed is accurate portrayal of God, but blasphemies are another matter. The god and jesus of Mormonism are not The God and Jesus of The Bible. You could check that yourself if you woul dbut read the first several verses in John's Gospel, with an open, non-mormonesque/smithian mind of course. And below is a little essay to perhaps help you learn Whom God IS.

The One God evidences Himself in the work He is doing

The following will be 'a way' to understand the notion of the trinitarian nature of the Deity, not a strictly Biblical explanation, but one which is applicable to the teaching of the Bible. Here goes:

God The Father Almighty is greater than His creation, thus greater than dimension time and dimension space, thus we may think of The Father Almighty as beyond time and space but not prevented from touching and indeed penetrating His creation.

The universe of space and time is likened to a bubble: what is inside the bubble is in time and space. But the nature of what is inside the bubble is only partially understood in modern Physics.

The Bible relates scenes which defy the simplistic notions we use for assumptive science. Let us make the statement that God The Father Almighty is as comfortable outside the bubble as He is inside the bubble.

Modern Physics has discovered that the balance of forces and tensions sustaining the universe necessary for human life to arise within the universe is extremely delicate, on the order of a mathematical improbability, represented as a 'one in less than' fraction so tiny that a one over a one followed by more than one-hundred zeros defines the probability that the whole thing remains in balance! [1/10¹⁰⁰] Such a delicate balancing act is but one of the continuing 'works' of the Holy Spirit of God. It is by the Spirit of God, The Word, that the universe came into existence and it is said in the Bible that by His Spirit the whole is maintained.

But the Bible also states that The Word was with God in the beginning and was God. In John's gospel we find that Jesus is The Word made flesh Who dwelt among us. So, inside the bubble Created by The Father Almighty, sustained by God The Holy Spirit, is the Word, God made flesh Who dwelt among us. The Creator does not stop being greater than His creation bubble, nor does His Spirit cease to sustain it all in balance, when Jesus comes in the flesh to dwell among us.

Here's an address to 'assumptive science limitations': Now, when one reads the Tanakh/Old Testament, one finds scenes like the fifth chapter of Daniel where a being is in one spacetime 'where/when' reaching into another 'where/when' to write on the palace party central wall of king Belshazzar. Just the forearm/hand is seen in the where/when of Belshazzar and the party folks, the rest of the being remains in 'another' where/when.

God The Father Almighty created this 'other' where/when, His Holy Spirit maintains its balance and separateness from our where/when, and Jesus has moved in and out of this other where/when: as shown when He resurrected from the tomb without rolling away the stone, just passing out of the tomb where/when, into 'another' where/when; then back into our where/when as He spoke to the women come to the sepulchre; and when He appeared in a locked and shuttered room with the disciples present; or appeared suddenly with the disciples walking on a road and broke bread with them then left our where/when to go to the 'other' where/when.

The trinitarian nature of God is shown in the Bible, even in the Tanakh. Trinity IS the nature of God as we have been given to know. Even in the Old Testament/Tanakh, we do have instruction on the Three nature of God as Creator, Sustainer, and Deliverer. God Is manifested as three yet one, seen identified by 'the work He is doing'.

With each manifestation, we are given to realize His presence simultaneously as Creator--because we exist in the realm He created, as Sustainer--because the balance is too delicate to stand alone without His sustaining the separation and interdependence, and as God with us in the person of Jesus our Lord and Savior.

[Colofornian]

How many wives did Abraham Isaac and Jacob have? If past polygamy is the measure of the Truth or Error ... you better can the whole Judeo-Christian religion since, God the Father/Jesus Christ are the God’s of Abraham Isaac and Jacob...

Isaac had one wife, Rebekah! The Bible knows of no other. History knows of no other. You wanna tell us her name? Did Isaac keep her in the basement like Joseph Smith did of his "maidservant" Fanny...16/17 yo???

See this is your lifelong due penalty for believing an ignorant schoolboy's ramblings about the Bible (Smith)...you're left forever to repeat nonsense just because Smith, in his personal apologetic to Emma to get her to cave in to let him sleep with other men's wives and available virgins, he stuck Isaac's name in there in D&C 132.

As for Abraham, he had two wives...none at the same time. Sarah died at age 127 (Gen. 23:1). THEN in Gen. 25:1, it says: Abraham had taken another wife, whose name was Keturah.

Now if you claim Hagar to have been Abram's wife, you're dead wrong. The only one who claimed that was Sarai (Sarah), who seemingly changed her mind after Hagar slept with Abram. (Sleeping with your wife's slave/servant girl doesn't make her your wife)

Go ahead. Check out Gen. 16 quite closely. Along with Gen. 21 and Galatians 4. After Abram slept with Hagar (& we don't know if it was even more than once), he still references Hagar as his wife's servant. [Not exactly a romantic wifely reference now, is it]

More importantly, the Angel of the Lord, whom some think He is the pre-incarnate Jesus Christ, also references Hagar as one belonging to her mistress -- also post sleeping with Abram...that "mistress" being Sarai. ["Mistress" is merely female for "Master"].

Even Hagar herself, after the fact, also references her per her relationship to Sarai -- NOT her relationship to Abram.

What's more, so does Moses, who wrote Gen. 21...and so does the apostle Paul, who wrote Gal. 4.

You keep showing your pure ignorance of the Bible, Teppe.

As for Jacob, he became a polygamist via deception. So are you advocating deception of bridegrooms in order to get another bride wedged in there, Mormon style? (I didn't know you were so overtly pro-deception, Teppe)

[Elsie]

....sometimes it throws him into the fire.

[Elsie]

I wondered when that was going to happen, as it was PREDICTED earlier.

[Elsie]

Repeating the wrong answer after being given the correct one either means you are being deceptive or bullheaded...

Actually; I'd go with CONTROLLED.

[Elsie]

I'll encourage Elsie to stop posting anything to you since you have revealed your severe limitations.

THAT could happen!