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To: fishtank

Okay I’ll give it a serious read. :-)

But I do get worn out by the whole “Mormons are bad” thing around here. It’s way overdone. One of the best preparedness manuals going around here appears to be a product of LDS, for what it’s worth.

In other words, you can’t dismiss someone SOLELY for having a strange belief system. You have to look at the whole person.


7 posted on 03/21/2011 8:07:09 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

I might trust an LDS produced emergency manual. Which is different from the emergency of hell.

I’m also concerned about escaping hell. Thankfully, God saved me a while ago.

But that was through faith in the real Jesus, not in a counterfeit faith in a make-believe lds jesus.


14 posted on 03/21/2011 8:14:02 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Larry Lucido

The preparedness manual, so called, was derived from US govt. sources in the 50’s (red scare, personal bunkers etc.). The few remaining family farmers have subscribed to these preparedness practices for generations. The govt. does not want us prepared independently of their largesse and protection at a price- freedom.


24 posted on 03/21/2011 8:28:41 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Larry Lucido

what’s the name of that manual?

How do I get one?


67 posted on 03/21/2011 9:43:02 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: Larry Lucido

I think you are confusing a couple things together.

The article doesn’t say he has bad morals or he’s not a family guy or tries to live a good life. Everyone has some kind of moral foundation they operate from. Look at the Japanese people, largely shinto or buddhist. They have strong family and morals. We would do well to emulate them in many ways. However if they said their actions and beliefs are because they are Christian, that’s where we’d have a problem with them, because they are not. Not because they are not trying to be a good person. Christians know that doesn’t earn them anything with God anyway, in terms of their personal salvation.

Beck’s Jesus isn’t the biblical Jesus. It’s the Mormon Jesus. Huge difference.

Also I don’t know if they are dismissing him solely on his belief system. They are pointing out more clearly what his belief system is, and making a point that it is not biblical Christianity. It’s good to know where people are operating from when they use the same terms you do, but they mean different things too them than they do to you. The words may be the same, but the ideas and beliefs behind the words are totally different. Core beliefs that, if compared more deeply, would make a Christian say, “That’s not what I believe.”

Further I don’t think anyone should ever put their everything behind just one person except Christ. Beck is an entertainer and conservative. He isn’t perfect, none of them are, they will fail and dissapoint you, they will make mistakes, they will be wrong on things. Beck is fine, I know where he’s coming from, I take certain things with a grain of salt from him, thankfully because I do know where he’s coming from.

It never hurts to know the worldview a person operates from. It cuts down on misunderstandings. ANd it may make people say I can’t trust what comes from that person’s mouth because I can’t trust their judgment. Everyone has to make that call themselves.


88 posted on 03/21/2011 10:41:05 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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