Posted on 03/05/2011 7:02:53 PM PST by delacoert
The major heresy of Mormonism is summed up in its central theological axiom, the doctrine of The Law of Eternal Progression. It is as follows: “As Man is, God once was, and as God is, man may become.”
Basically, it says that the god of Mormonism was once a man who was born to human parents on another planet, grew to manhood, lived out his life being obedient to the laws and ordinances of the gospel presented by the god of that world. Upon his death and resurrection, he was judged (by his god) as being worthy for godhood.
The Mormon god was raised to his godhood and sent with many goddess wives to a planet near the great star, Kolob, somewhere in our present galaxy. There, this god and his wives began ‘procreating’ or physically begetting “spirit” children. We here on this planet are each the offspring of this god and one of his goddesses in this pre-existent Mormon world.
Amazing? Yes, it is! But even more disparate is the position of Christ in all this. Mormonism teaches that when their god decided it was time to populate this earth with his spirit children, the Head of All The Gods called a great council meeting to decide the method. The Mormon god asked his two eldest sons, Jesus and Lucifer, to both prepare plans for presentation to the council. They chose the plan of Jesus.
Lucifer rebelled and led one-third of the children to revolt against god and in a great battle, was defeated by Christ and the two-thirds who were “valiant.” Lucifer and those who fought with him were cast to earth without bodies and became the devil and his demons. Those others who were less than valiant became the black race and the very valiant became the “white and delightsome” race.
Mormonism teaches that if Mormons are faithful, pay their tithing, obey all the laws and ordinances of the (Mormon) gospel, do their genealogy and go to the temple for secret, sacred rituals for both the living and their dead, they too can become gods and goddesses as all gods have done before them.
To the Mormon, Jesus is our elder brother, who pointed the way, but isn’t The Way, as we Christians understand. To the Mormon, Jesus was the god of the Old Testament, but once he took his physical form, justified his own spiritual salvation through his works while in the flesh, just as each of us must.
Mormonism teaches that Jesus suffered for our sins in the Garden of Gethsemane, providing personal salvation (which may mean exaltation to godhood) conditional upon our obedience to the laws and ordinances of the LDS gospel. His death on the cross provided a general salvation, whereby all mankind is resurrected to be judged for our works, using the secret keys, hand grips and passwords learned only in the Mormon temple by worthy Mormons.
What I have just shared is just the tip of a dark and dangerous iceberg, filled with spiritual death for its unsuspecting victims. Proverbs 14:12 says, “There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.” Were the scriptures ever more direct in such a matter?
You'll never make angelhood. Angels are God created beings, regardless of what Hollywood says.
I agree that tagging threads about Mormonism as anti-Christian is justifiable. When I as a devout Christian read words of Mormon founders and hierarchs such as:
"Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 10, 1863, p. 127).
"And when the day cometh that the wrath of God is poured out upon the mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church of all the earth, whose foundation is the devil, then, at that day, the work of the Father shall commence. . ." (1 Nephi. 14:17).
I see no other option than to conclude that Mormonism IS anti-Christian.
While I am aware of back peddling Mormon apologetics such as:
I see only typical dissembling by F.A.R.M.S. in transparent attempts to market Mormonism in the internet age.
Furthermore, Mormon doctrine is so antithetical to Christian doctrine that it is irreconcilably anti-Christian. The polytheism that they want to soft peddle as henotheism is just the tip of the iceberg.
If you have a burning desire to hold forth your views on the heresies of Christianity maybe you should start your own thread.
Your attempt to arbitrate disagreements about the finer points of essential Christian doctrine arising from sound exegesis of holy scripture is without value.
Sticking your nose in is rather troll like IMO.
re: “Wouldn’t a mind that did not consider beliefs that contradict Scriptures, be the closed one?”
Who says I didn’t? The problem is I found the other beliefs to be false. On the other hand, isn’t it possible that a mind that refuses to be open to the idea that the Bible could, in fact, be God’s unique written Word, and that it is the absolute AUTHORITY on truth - couldn’t that mind also be closed?
If the Bible truly is God’s Word, then, unless He’s schizophrenic, it would not be contradicted by further revelation from Him. The Book of Mormon is contradicted by later writings from Joseph Smith, so he isn’t even consistent with himself, let alone the Bible.
For example:
“...God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and in him there is no variableness neither shadow of changing.” (Morm 9:9)
“...there is a God in heaven, who is infinite and eternal, from everlasting to everlasting the same unchangeable God...” (Doctrine and Covenant 20:17)
But, Joseph Smith taught that God was once a human being like us, and became God:
“God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret... It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know...that he was once a man like us...” (from the “King Follett Discourse” TJS 342-343, also JoD 6:3-4)
Brigham Young said the same thing:
“He [God] is our Father - the Father of our spirits, and was once a man in mortal flesh as we are, and is now an exalted being.” (JoD 7:333):
If men can become gods, then, by definition Mormon doctrine is polytheistic, because there would have to be many gods in existence. Yet it says in
Book of Mormon, Alma 11:26-29
26 – And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest there is a true and living God? And Amulek said: Yea, there is a true and living God. Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he answered, No.
So, there is a problem. These beliefs are not consistent even within Joseph’s own writings.
As a devout and well educated Catholic, doesn't coming to the defense of Mormonism over an anti-Christian descriptor leave a little bit of a bad taste in your mouth? I mean statements from Mormon hierarchs like Bruce McConlie like, "The Roman Catholic Church specifically -- singled out, set apart, described and designated as being 'most abominable above all other churches' ( Ne. 13:5)" are poignantly anti-Christian.
Heresies do not cease to be heresies because they claim over 12,000,000 members; either. -- ELSIE
Indeed.
So NOW you know!
Hie thee to a Stake House: NOW!
How DARE you actually post words of our past Leaders!
—MormonDude(It’s ok if WE post them though...)
Are you MOCKING what our Leader has written?
What was revealed from GOD in D&C 132??
--Mormon Dude(I know; I know; there's stuff in 132 that WE don't follow any more, either.)
Of COURSE!
--MormonDude(We'd have hardly any BoM at all if all the BIBLE was removed from it!)
Just in case anyone missed the previous 180+ YEARS of Mormonism-bashing true CHRIASTIANITY.
True Chriastianity? This should be good. Are you the spokesperson for true Christianity? Hopefully, you can explain to me the reason that you tithe.
But it's right there in the BIBLE; too!
Genesis 3:1-4
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”
“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
--MormonDude(Why don't you 'christians' know your BIBLE like we MORMONs do?)
Do creatures grow up to be like their CREATOR?
When is the Holy Spirit going to 'grow up' and get a FLESHLY body like Jesus and the FATHER?
--MormonDude(Another question we've not had answered yet.)
There are 51,998 MORE of us where WE came from!
We can be on YOUR doorstep TOMORROW!
Hi Stu!
Glad to see you back!
Can you explain how THIS would work?
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