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To: Jim 0216; The Ignorant Fisherman; G Larry; RJR_fan; The Theophilus; Dr. Eckleburg
I never said the Bible uses the phrase "Laodicean age", but it never uses the phrase "trinity" either.

I didn’t say you did. I said, “The Bible does not speak of a ‘Laodicean age.’“ Nor does it infer anything remotely like what you pictured.

Trinity is a concept derived directly from the Bible which every real Christian affirms. Saying something like, “We are living in an age (Laodicean) like no other,” does not rise to the same level. Hardly any Christians agree with your statement.

You tell me that everything Jesus speaks of concerning the church at Laodicea isn't a precise description of not only today's church but also the age we're living in.

It’s not. Anyone can take Rev. 3 and allegorize it to make it say what they want, about this “age” or any other. How old is this “age” of yours, anyway? 2 years? 200 Years? Hard to tell when the picture you’re painting is so fuzzy.

We live in an age unlike no other that has kicked God out (hence the picture of Jesus on the outside knocking on the door).

But this statement has nothing to do with the Laodicean church, that is if you actually read the text of Rev. 3:14-22.

It seems from what you wrote that you scoff at the idea that the end of the age is near and His coming is imminent. As I've pointed out, you don't have to look very far to see that we are building quickly to annihilation such as has never been seen before.

Scoff at futurist nonsense, yes. Scoff at futurist allegorizing, yes.

Every generation of Christian for the last 2000 years has been duped into believing theirs is somehow prophetically unique and the “terminal generation.” It’s a disease called Last Days Madness . The good news is there’s a cure.

Perhaps you’d like to take my survey of futurist literati. What is your prediction for the futurist rapture event?

  1. Within a year
  2. 1-5 years
  3. 5-10 years
  4. 10-20 years
  5. Within this century
  6. Other
  7. Haven’t a clue

63 posted on 03/01/2011 9:27:24 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- an error of Biblical proportions.")
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To: DManA; CynicalBear; M. Espinola; topcat54; ShadowAce; jy8z; The Theophilus; Dr. Eckleburg
You tell me that everything Jesus speaks of concerning the church at Laodicea isn't a precise description of not only today's church but also the age we're living in.

Dispensationalists can't hope to see the nations submit to the King of kings in this age because:

The fortune-tellers and doomsayers were caught with their britches down when the fall of the Soviet Union made their proud prognostications useful for scratchy, second-rate toilet paper. A worm can learn from experience, but the addiction to fortune-telling makes its devotees unteachable. As Leon Festinger demonstrated through his research, an apocalyptic cult gains strength through the failures of its predictions. Satan whispers in their ear, "of course, we know we're right. We'll just have to believe twice as hard and shout twice as loud the next time we make a confident prediction of The End." To make cognitive dissonance bearable, the dupes of fortune-tellers need to make themselves more stupid (and, as this forum demonstrates, angrier) than they really are.
65 posted on 03/01/2011 9:40:52 AM PST by RJR_fan (Lovers and winners shape the future. Losers and whiners TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
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To: topcat54
Scoff at futurist nonsense, yes. Scoff at futurist allegorizing, yes

• Numbers-wise, Europe is well on its way to being overrun by Muslims.
• Sharia law is beginning to make inroads in America. (Do you know anything about Sharia law?)
• Islam believes this 12th Imam who will kill Jews and Christians is the second coming of Christ who will explain the Bible was never correct.
• Islam also believes that violence and death will help bring this coming of the 12th Imam.
• One of the names in Islamic tradition for this person is the Beast.
• Nuclear capabilities are set to fall into the hands of Iran who has shown intention to use this on Israel and America. Nuclear capabilities are becoming easier to come by. Once these Islamic Jihadists have this capability, they think 70 virgins will be waiting for them and the 12th Imam will appear if they blow up the world. • A nuclear device can now be hidden in a suitcase

Is this “futurism” or “allegorizing”? No, these are just a few documented facts. Maybe you can say none of this matters. “It’s all been said before – you’re a victim of ‘Last Day Madness’.” Well, at some point, your “NUH UH” starts to sound almost word-for-word like the scoffers in scripture who say “all things continue as they always have” (II Peter 3:4).

66 posted on 03/01/2011 10:14:06 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: topcat54
Perhaps you’d like to take my survey of futurist literati. What is your prediction for the futurist rapture event?

1. Within a year
2. 1-5 years
3. 5-10 years
4. 10-20 years
5. Within this century
6. Other
7. Haven’t a clue

What the heck is "other?" "Havent a clue" implies "because I dont care." You have included everything but the Biblical view ... please include

8. It can happen at any time.

... then put me down for 8.

97 posted on 03/02/2011 6:59:35 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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