[Cronos]

Let us put this in simple English for you:

1. Followers of Calvin do not believe in the God of Christianity. With their idea of limited atonement, they believe in a Robot-Maker in the sky, not God.

2. Followers of Calvin disregard scripture such as John 4:42,1 Timothy 4:10 and 1 John 2:2

3. Followers of Calvin believe in 0 free-will and in Total Depravity, which means they believe in a Robot God that creates some robots evil and creates others "good" and programs the evil to do evil and the good to do good.

4. Hence the followers of Calvin preach that Calvin's robot-maker is the root of evil as he pre-programmed all the robots (men) to do either good or evil.

5. The Robots cannot, according to the followers of Calvin, change anything as it is their programming. This is quite in contrast to Ezekiel 33:12-16
   

   [12] Thou therefore, O son of man, say to the children of thy people: The justice of the just shall not deliver him, in what day soever he shall sin: and the wickedness of the wicked shall not hurt him, in what day soever he shall turn from his wickedness: and the just shall not be able to live in his justice, in what day soever he shall sin.

   [13] Yea, if I shall say to the just that he shall surely live, and he, trusting in his justice, commit iniquity: all his justices shall be forgotten, and in his iniquity, which he hath committed, in the same shall he die.

   [14] And if I shall say to the wicked: Thou shalt surely die: and he do penance for his sin, and do judgment and justice,

   [15] And if that wicked man restore the pledge, and render what he had robbed, and walk in the commandments of life, and do no unjust thing: he shall surely live, and shall not die.

   [16] None of his sins, which he hath committed, shall be imputed to him: he hath done judgment and justice, he shall surely live.

6. Hence the followers of Calvin believe in their great robot-maker in the sky, they do not believe in the Christian God of Love who came to atone for the sins of ALL men. The Calvinists deny the fact that the grace provided by Christ's sacrifice was sufficient to save all men
   

   1 Timothy 2:4

   For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour, [4] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

7. Net-net, the followers of Calvin believe in a god like a robot-maker who pre-programs some to do good, some to do evil and pre-marks them willfully to burn in hell forever or not. This is not the Christian God

[HossB86]

Let us put this in simple English for you:

Us? Who is us? Are you a royal 'we', or are you getting this from the Magicsterium*?

Again, you know nothing. Every post you make proves it, so please -- do continue.

GC, MM, BB -- I'm still hearing something, but can't quite make it out....

Hoss

[HarleyD]

The Robots cannot, according to the followers of Calvin, change anything as it is their programming. This is quite in contrast to Ezekiel 33:12-16

You've inadvertantly left off the REST of the passage:

Eze 33:12 "And you, son of man, say to your people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him when he transgresses, and as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall by it when he turns from his wickedness, and the righteous shall not be able to live by his righteousness when he sins.
Eze 33:13 Though I say to the righteous that he shall surely live, yet if he trusts in his righteousness and does injustice, none of his righteous deeds shall be remembered, but in his injustice that he has done he shall die.
Eze 33:14 Again, though I say to the wicked, 'You shall surely die,' yet if he turns from his sin and does what is just and right,
Eze 33:15 if the wicked restores the pledge, gives back what he has taken by robbery, and walks in the statutes of life, not doing injustice, he shall surely live; he shall not die.
Eze 33:16 None of the sins that he has committed shall be remembered against him. He has done what is just and right; he shall surely live.
Eze 33:17 "Yet your people say, 'The way of the Lord is not just,' when it is their own way that is not just.
Eze 33:18 When the righteous turns from his righteousness and does injustice, he shall die for it.
Eze 33:19 And when the wicked turns from his wickedness and does what is just and right, he shall live by this.
Eze 33:20 Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' O house of Israel, I will judge each of you according to his ways."

The Lord calls us to turn from our evil ways. We are called to walk in His way. We just refuse (please note v17). Not only do we refuse, we criticize God because of His generosity. Because of our folly, God will judge each one of us according to our way-just the way we want. The wages of our sin is death and God would be remiss if He did not give us our wages. It is only those who God opened our eyes and ears to hear His message that will escape this judgment that we so rightfully deserve.

God's desire is indeed for us to turn from our wicked way. It is His desire that all men come to know the truth just as your verse in 1 Tim 2:4 points out. But as you can see from your verses in Ezekiel, man rallies against God.

The only reason any of us are saved is because God steps in and opens our eyes counter to our desires. This is no different then what happened to Paul on the Damascus Road. Anyone who tells you otherwise does not understand the grace of God.