I got you a room. Whew! Been looking all day long. By the way, these girders look like wood but they are actually steel made to look like wood. July 23 will require your presence my brother.
Posted on 02/14/2011 11:02:10 AM PST by Paragon Defender
The Nephites gather to the land of Cumorah for the final battles—Mormon hides the sacred records in the hill Cumorah—The Lamanites are victorious, and the Nephite nation is destroyed—Hundreds of thousands are slain with the sword. About A.D. 385.
1 And now I finish my record concerning the destruction of my people, the Nephites. And it came to pass that we did march forth before the Lamanites.
2 And I, Mormon, wrote an epistle unto the king of the Lamanites, and desired of him that he would grant unto us that we might gather together our people unto the land of Cumorah, by a hill which was called Cumorah, and there we could give them battle.
3 And it came to pass that the king of the Lamanites did grant unto me the thing which I desired.
4 And it came to pass that we did march forth to the land of Cumorah, and we did pitch our tents around about the hill Cumorah; and it was in a land of many waters, rivers, and fountains; and here we had hope to gain advantage over the Lamanites.
5 And *when three hundred and eighty and four years had passed away, we had gathered in all the remainder of our people unto the land of Cumorah.
6 And it came to pass that when we had gathered in all our people in one to the land of Cumorah, behold I, Mormon, began to be old; and knowing it to be the last struggle of my people, and having been commanded of the Lord that I should not suffer the records which had been handed down by our fathers, which were sacred, to fall into the hands of the Lamanites, (for the Lamanites would destroy them) therefore I made this record out of the plates of Nephi, and hid up in the hill Cumorah all the records which had been entrusted to me by the hand of the Lord, save it were these few plates which I gave unto my son Moroni.
7 And it came to pass that my people, with their wives and their children, did now behold the armies of the Lamanites marching towards them; and with that awful fear of death which fills the breasts of all the wicked, did they await to receive them.
8 And it came to pass that they came to battle against us, and every soul was filled with terror because of the greatness of their numbers.
9 And it came to pass that they did fall upon my people with the sword, and with the bow, and with the arrow, and with the ax, and with all manner of weapons of war.
10 And it came to pass that my men were hewn down, yea, even my ten thousand who were with me, and I fell wounded in the midst; and they passed by me that they did not put an end to my life.
11And when they had gone through and hewn down all my people save it were twenty and four of us, (among whom was my son Moroni) and we having survived the dead of our people, did behold on the morrow, when the Lamanites had returned unto their camps, from the top of the hill Cumorah, the ten thousand of my people who were hewn down, being led in the front by me.
12 And we also beheld the ten thousand of my people who were led by my son Moroni.
13 And behold, the ten thousand of Gidgiddonah had fallen, and he also in the midst.
14 And Lamah had fallen with his ten thousand; and Gilgal had fallen with his ten thousand; and Limhah had fallen with his ten thousand; and Jeneum had fallen with his ten thousand; and Cumenihah, and Moronihah, and Antionum, and Shiblom, and Shem, and Josh, had fallen with their ten thousand each.
15 And it came to pass that there were ten more who did fall by the sword, with their ten thousand each; yea, even all my people, save it were those twenty and four who were with me, and also a few who had escaped into the south countries, and a few who had deserted over unto the Lamanites, had fallen; and their flesh, and bones, and blood lay upon the face of the earth, being left by the hands of those who slew them to molder upon the land, and to crumble and to return to their mother earth.
16 And my soul was rent with anguish, because of the slain of my people, and I cried:
17 O ye fair ones, how could ye have departed from the ways of the Lord! O ye fair ones, how could ye have rejected that Jesus, who stood with open arms to receive you!
18 Behold, if ye had not done this, ye would not have fallen. But behold, ye are fallen, and I mourn your loss.
19 O ye fair sons and daughters, ye fathers and mothers, ye husbands and wives, ye fair ones, how is it that ye could have fallen!
20 But behold, ye are gone, and my sorrows cannot bring your return.
21 And the day soon cometh that your mortal must put on immortality, and these bodies which are now moldering in corruption must soon become incorruptible bodies; and then ye must stand before the judgment-seat of Christ, to be judged according to your works; and if it so be that ye are righteous, then are ye blessed with your fathers who have gone before you.
22 O that ye had repented before this great destruction had come upon you. But behold, ye are gone, and the Father, yea, the Eternal Father of heaven, knoweth your state; and he doeth with you according to his justice and mercy.
There are many suckers in the religion called MORMONism.
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Others can read this as they would. I understand the building material Solomon used where not found in their land.
I got you a room. Whew! Been looking all day long. By the way, these girders look like wood but they are actually steel made to look like wood. July 23 will require your presence my brother.
PS thanks for the Bessemer post.
So these versus are saying they were there but they weren’t otherwise it would be like Solomon’s Temple, which it wasn’t but still pretty good.
2 Nephi 5:15 And I did teach my people to build buildings, and to work in all manner of wood, and of iron, and of copper, and of brass, and of steel, and of gold, and of silver, and of precious ores, which were in great abundance.
5:16 And I, Nephi, did build a temple; and I did construct it after the manner of the temple of Solomon save it were not built of so many precious things; for they were not to be found upon the land, wherefore, it could not be built like unto Solomon’s temple. But the manner of the construction was like unto the temple of Solomon; and the workmanship thereof was exceedingly fine.
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Pray for them
Interesting that no where in that list is “reading the bible.”
That’s exactly what started it all.
Sure, sure... limit yourself to believing in people who have evidence of existence. Now believing in phantasmagoria, that's what makes Mormonism special.
ROFL
It's an ancient marshal art.
Wasn't Bruce Lee the first to rediscover this one and die after doing it the first time?
Are you a mormon by birth?
Can you explain/talk about the other churches that you researched and found doubts?
I've a question:
If I'm a Islamic man...but love God with all my heart..and serve Him..according to my faith. Am I going to hell or heaven?
Whew so much in this thread...
I need a good cuppa tea...
A loverly cuppa would hit the spot..
Be right back...
:)
As of yet we’ve not been able to reproduce Damascus steel.
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AH yes but we can produce Bethlehem steel...
and Joey Smith did hang out in PA..
see how it goes..
In fact he dunked and annoyed Oliver Cowdery on the banks of the Susquehanna River...
And who dunked and annoyed Joey Smith first in orsder to give him the authority to dunk and annoy Oliver you ask ???
Good question..
Why Oliver of course...
And who who dunked and annoyed Oliver first before Oliver dunked and annoyed Joey Smith ???
Another good question...
Why ...uh...why it was...err...
There's something about 1492 that comes to mind... and it has nothing to do with Nephites.
“Kiln’s discovered in Central America are able to withstand 900 degrees C.”
This is nothing more than a random fact, forced to march in lock step to support a mormon fairy tale.
There were no cities from sea to sea. There are no Jewish Indians. There are no curelom bones. Heck, there aren’t metalworks or foundations or graves that would support what the BOM claims. It is all wishful thinking.
The fact that somewhere in S. America a kiln is found that could withstand high levels of heat, does not mean anything that proves the BOM claims.
I’m sorry for you. Truly sorry, that you are staking your eternal destiny in claims that have no proof to support them and are clearly falsifiable.
This choice of a feelings based religion is a personal choice on your part. You can choose to pursue the truth.
You seem no different that people who live in Cleveland, but won’t leave. The same roads that lead in also lead out Bluemoose. Take one.
Learn of Him. Learn of His Grace. Learn of the single and only God. Learn of salvation apart form human works. Learn of a faith that actually is supported by geography, dna, history, archeology, facts, logic, evidence, etc.
You have just today. Nothing else is certain. Take advantage of the grace that is offered to you today.
best to you,
ampu
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