Toooooo true!
Posted on 02/12/2011 6:20:06 PM PST by topcat54
Joel McDurmon, hosting today's show for Gary DeMar, exposes End-times Dysfunction (E.D.) for what it is. Joel shares with doomsdayers how they can get relief from their paranoia and troubled souls.
I didn’t understand why, but I have seen what you’re talking about over & over in these end-time posts - that those who would embrace preterism & replacement theology always limit God and His supernatural intervention in our world. Like you said, they need to have “tidy little boxes” for their Biblical understanding, and their concept of God. And I would venture to say that in almost every case where they say a prophecy is fulfilled, it needs to be scaled down significantly to meet their interpretation.
I’m excited to see what God is doing now, and what He will be doing tomorrow & on & on.
Thank you for your professional analysis! Makes sense to me! (Also, there’s that HUGE pride issue...)
INDEED.
Biblicly, only 1948 or the retaking of Jerusalem in 1967 would fit . . . per my understanding.
To venerate real estate is no different than what the papists do with their “holy” scraps and relics.
No venerating RealEstate per se.
ALMIGHTY GOD DECLARED what HE would do with the Real Estate
IN BEHALF OF HIS EVERLASTING PROMISES TO HIS BUDDY ABRAHAM
. . . AND FOR GOD’S OWN GLORY.
AND HE’S NOT NEAR FINISHED WITH THAT PROJECT YET.
He has YET to deliver to Jacob’s kids all the land to the boundaries HE DECLARED HE WOULD DELIVER.
EVERY ONE OF GOD’S PROMISES ARE RELIABLE—PARTICULARLY THE ONES HE STRESSED WERE EVERLASTING TO ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB’S KIDS.
And THEN HE added the emphasis about those EVERLASTING PROMISES being in force as long as there are stars, sun, moon. . .
Y’all have NEVER come remotely close to explaining all that away. And y’all never well. Can’t be done.
Y’all may delude yourselves that the REPLACEMENTARIAN NOTION OF THE CHURCH = ISRAEL explains it all away. That doesn’t come close. Utter nonsense.
Yeah—The Church is GRAFTED IN—to THE ORIGINAL VINE! DOH!
It still boggles my mind how rubbery y’alls Romans is.
Actually, no. The dispensational schema is much more complex. There are no “dispensations” that correspond to the simple divisions we find in the Bible, Old Testament and New Testament. There are anywhere from 4 to 10 dispensations, depending on which dispensationalist you are talking to.
I don’t see what it is that you fear that causes you to reject what is so plain in god’s word.
This isn't about rejecting the plain Word of God. I fully affirm the plain Word of God. What I reject and oppose is the complicated and unbiblical schema being pushed by futurist dispensationalists. Their notions of divisions have no support from Scripture.
Too true.
Sigh.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
That might twist Calvinist knickers a bit.
Amen! Very well put.
Thx.
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
Obvious confusion abounds. Just because we reject the unbiblical suggestions of futurism does not mean we in any way limit God. We just believe futurists are by and large clueless when it come to understanding how God works in the world.
“We just believe futurists are by and large clueless when it come to understanding how God works in the world.”
Which is, of course, limited to the confines of the WESTMINSTER CONFESSION OF FAITH. If it’s not in there, it ain’t allowed. Right?
How did you get this? I've never made that claim. Are you trying to read my mind, or just trying to obfuscate?
“But I can’t see into your heart. How would these things be manifest to others?”
Personally, when I think of consecration, sanctification, being set apart, dying to self, I think these things affect more of what is between God and me. Sanctification is the process of me allowing God to cut away that which is in my soul that takes me away from Him, and being conformed into His image. When I become more like Christ, more conformed into His image, then I will produce fruit of that - good works. But also what will be manifest are the fruit of the Spirit, which demonstrates that an inward work has begun. A process that never ends hopefully.
Also I’ve known baby Christians that out their zeal of salvation, not actually out of sanctification per se, have manifested good works.
When their old Vatican cult personality dynamics start flooding out . . . at least the following may be true . . .
Is there any point of doctrine that isn’t permitted or sanctioned in the WESTMINSTER CONFESSION OF FAITH that you believe in?
Seriously.
>> “Actually, no. The dispensational schema is much more complex. There are no “dispensations” that correspond to the simple divisions we find in the Bible” <<
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That statement is simply indicative of how little understanding you have gotten when reading God’s word.
The dispensations are not quite the ‘divisions’ that blind eyes see, but detours that allow God’s plan to penetrate the minds of all of his elect, much like a flagman directs traffic in a construction zone.
It was altogether necessary that the ‘stop’ paddle be held up to “the circumcision” that the gentile church be allowed to proceed to the point where the two will merge, and combine knowledge, at which point we are today IMO.
Those that picked up Paul’s dispensational pennant in the 19th century misunderstood this necessary blending of the knowledge that God has imparted to the two stems of his tree, just as the preterists completely missed the whole road by making their own early offramp.
>> “I think he’s quite accurate on such scores.” <<
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I don’t.
I won’t attempt to guess the extent to which the Earth will be restored for the millennial reign, but it needs to be realized that the scriptures make it plain that the physical universe, including time, are illusions that are to be destroyed at the end of that period. All that is corruptible is to cease. Corruption (us) must put on incorruption (a different kind of ‘body’) to become eternal.
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