Posted on 02/05/2011 11:07:42 AM PST by Gamecock
Because I was busy and didn't see it instantly when you posted it and even if I did, that doesn't obligate me to answer you immediately, if ever.
Nor did that even give me a chance to think about and compose a reply.
Honestly, how controlling can someone get?
you claim to have been a Catholic once, if that was true, you know the answer already. stop playing games, you know you never were taught to worship Mary. if you were never Catholic and all you know about the Church is from what a pastor told you, then i can understand your question, in that case, do your own research.
“I can’t help it if you don’t like it, but there’s simply no other way to read that.”
You can’t refute my post other than disagreeing with the correct interpretation.
Have a nice day!
So let me get this straight. You don’t believe ONE God three persons?
yes, see my post #439
Scripture that supports Mary being the “Queen of Heaven”?
Scripture that supports that Mary is a co-redemptrix?
Scripture that supports Mary was born without sin?
Scripture that supports that Mary was sinless?
Mary was a woman. She was the vessel in which Christ was born. Sinful just like the rest of us. No different than the rest of us in birth or death.
And, also — the scripture to which you refer doesn’t claim what you’re trying to say that it claims.
You wrote:
‘8 While he was speaking, a woman from the crowd called out and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that carried you and the breasts at which you nursed.”
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He replied, “Rather, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it.” ‘
Who was the woman referring to? Did any other womb bear Christ? Did any other breast nurse him? Then WHO else could Christ be referring to when he said, “rather....”?
Get it? Those who hear God’s word and observe it are RATHER to be blessed than the womb that bore Him or the breasts that nursed him. Try to ACTUALLY read it in context instead of reading IN what the Roman Catholic Church claims.
Sorry.
Hoss
why would he get a shock wave that i am not “oneness”?
He answered that one already.
If this is an example of your reasoning skills, ........
Never mind......
Tell you what.....
If you want to build a case against him, provide the links to the quotes so that others can go back and read them themselves instead of trying to depend on your incoherent, grammatical atrocities to figure out who said what and who what was replying to.
A piece of advice.
Go into something besides law.
“You don’t have your own business in order when you question the Word of the Almighty God. Hear and Obey is the command.”
Amen.
you must have been very good a dodge ball, back in the day. you are the one that claims the Church teaches false doctrine, therefore it is not the true Church.
ok, if it isn’t, there must be another spiritual body of believers who did not call themselves Cathlolic, nor hold to the Catholic Faith from 95ad to 1517ad, correct?
well, who were they, did they have a name? did they have leaders?
your lack of specifics is deafening, because we both know no one existed who holds to your unorthodox beliefs before the 16th century.
i notice you never answered my question from a week or so regarding who has the authority to set the canon of Scripture.
also, you never answered my question on the murderer who is executed, but is baptized right before his execution, does the Catholic Faith teach he goes straight to heaven when he dies? this was to dispute your claim the Church teaches we are saved by good works, the murderer did not do any good works. if you answer yes, the Catholic Church teaches the murderer goes straight heaven, was it because of grace alone he was saved or by his nonexistent good works?
“Honestly, how controlling can someone get?”
Well, consider the source. Apparently that’s what the men in dresses and party hats teach. And you knoooooowwwwww they have to be right. Even when they’re not, they’re right. Or is that rite? ;)
Hoss
“You can’t refute my post other than disagreeing with the correct interpretation.”
Uhhh. She DID refute it.
Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it wasn’t done.
Have a nice day too!
Hoss
i and all Christians answer with statement a.
i and everyone else can see, you are not answering the question. stand up for your beliefs man!
riiittteee....
That was funny.
You need to give it up dude. One God, three persons.
Seriously, I have to run. Super Bowl *Bowel as far as I’m concerned* supper to get going. Company coming.
“1) Sola scriptura contradicts itself, because it is not taught in scripture.
2) Sola scriptura is an example of the logical fallacy of begging the question, inasmuch as the canonical scriptures never identify what is and what is not scripture.
3) The Bible teaches that oral tradition is a source of revelation.
4) The Bible shows the Catholic system of authority.
5) The writings of the earliest Christians show the Catholic system of authority.
6) The legitimate practices of the Jews developed, and the scriptures were not viewed as an exclusive guide.
7) The infant Church in Acts is in a constant state of development.
8) Sola scriptura was not believed by anybody until the Reformation, and is thus a tradition of man, condemned by Jesus.
9) The Bible prophesies the rise and growth of the Catholic Church.
10) The Church of Christ has no historical connection to the Church established in Jerusalem in 33 AD.
11) The Church of Christ only teaches sola scriptura because she split from Calvinism and is, therefore, a Protestant denomination or sect, and not the Universal Church of the Bible.
1) Sola scriptura contradicts itself, because it is not taught in scripture.
The doctrine that the Bible alone is our only religious authority is not taught in the Bible. There is no book, chapter, and verse that demands book, chapter, and verse authority for every doctrine and practice. Don’t get me wrong—I believe that the 27 letters which are in the New Testament are inspired. I believe that they are inerrant. I believe that they are authoritative. However, they NEVER CLAIM to be our only authority. The entire doctrine collapses because it contradicts itself.”
http://www.catholicsource.net/articles/sola1.html
“2 Thessalonians 2:15
So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.
TRADITIONS in the teachings of the Fathers and of the things known by the Apostles and given to us by word of mouth and in the traditions are how we know.
Catholics believe Scripture and follow it. We do not believe in Sola Scriptura.
I’ll play tomorrow, maybe.
Peace be with you.
It's your church. YOU tell US.
If even you can figure out what you just asked.
i provided the exact links in posts 431, 432 and 433. it is all there for anyone with eyes to see.
want to take a crack at post #439, which statement a. or b. decribes your belief about the nature of God? you could settle a lot of questions with the answer.
They don’t read the refuting posts.
“ok, if it isn’t, there must be another spiritual body of believers who did not call themselves Cathlolic, nor hold to the Catholic Faith from 95ad to 1517ad, correct?
well, who were they, did they have a name? did they have leaders?”
Duh. They WERE and ARE called Christians and their leader is Jesus Christ. Not some man-made, scripture-twisting edifice that likes to add to God’s word and teaches a false doctrine.
See? Simple.
“because we both know no one existed who holds to your unorthodox beliefs before the 16th century.”
Try reading the Bible — uh.. you know. That ‘book’ you claim that the Roman Catholic Church wrote? That’s what WE believe... just like those CHRISTIANS to whom Jesus spoke and taught, to whom epistles were written by theApostles — not some twisted bilge that men in dresses and party hats tell you to believe.
Again, you fail. Fail, fail, fail. Or maybe, flail, flail, flail.
Try, try again.
Hoss
She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.
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