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To: boatbums; Cronos

you must have been very good a dodge ball, back in the day. you are the one that claims the Church teaches false doctrine, therefore it is not the true Church.
ok, if it isn’t, there must be another spiritual body of believers who did not call themselves Cathlolic, nor hold to the Catholic Faith from 95ad to 1517ad, correct?
well, who were they, did they have a name? did they have leaders?
your lack of specifics is deafening, because we both know no one existed who holds to your unorthodox beliefs before the 16th century.
i notice you never answered my question from a week or so regarding who has the authority to set the canon of Scripture.
also, you never answered my question on the murderer who is executed, but is baptized right before his execution, does the Catholic Faith teach he goes straight to heaven when he dies? this was to dispute your claim the Church teaches we are saved by good works, the murderer did not do any good works. if you answer yes, the Catholic Church teaches the murderer goes straight heaven, was it because of grace alone he was saved or by his nonexistent good works?


449 posted on 02/06/2011 11:56:03 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; boatbums; Cronos; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; ...
also, you never answered my question on the murderer who is executed, but is baptized right before his execution, does the Catholic Faith teach he goes straight to heaven when he dies? this was to dispute your claim the Church teaches we are saved by good works, the murderer did not do any good works. if you answer yes, the Catholic Church teaches the murderer goes straight heaven, was it because of grace alone he was saved or by his nonexistent good works?

It's your church. YOU tell US.

If even you can figure out what you just asked.

456 posted on 02/06/2011 12:03:41 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; boatbums

“ok, if it isn’t, there must be another spiritual body of believers who did not call themselves Cathlolic, nor hold to the Catholic Faith from 95ad to 1517ad, correct?
well, who were they, did they have a name? did they have leaders?”

Duh. They WERE and ARE called Christians and their leader is Jesus Christ. Not some man-made, scripture-twisting edifice that likes to add to God’s word and teaches a false doctrine.

See? Simple.

“because we both know no one existed who holds to your unorthodox beliefs before the 16th century.”

Try reading the Bible — uh.. you know. That ‘book’ you claim that the Roman Catholic Church wrote? That’s what WE believe... just like those CHRISTIANS to whom Jesus spoke and taught, to whom epistles were written by theApostles — not some twisted bilge that men in dresses and party hats tell you to believe.

Again, you fail. Fail, fail, fail. Or maybe, flail, flail, flail.

Try, try again.

Hoss


459 posted on 02/06/2011 12:07:00 PM PST by HossB86
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

You have a faulty memory. You also are trying to drag up things from other threads and try to dispute them all in one place. This is not allowed on the Religion Forum. Try to stick to the rules and try to keep your questions and to whom you asked them straight as well. You did not like my answer to your first question to me, but it doesn’t mean I failed to answer it.


536 posted on 02/06/2011 1:39:43 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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